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Quick Question About Queen's Style
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Gillian White
2004-08-16 22:05:00 UTC
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In the UK, are there any rules about who is able to be known as 'Her Majesty
The Queen'? Does this style apply to a Queen Consort as well as a Queen
Regnant? For instance, was the Queen Mother previously 'HM The Queen' or 'HM
Queen Elizabeth'? Is the word 'The' reserved for a Queen Regnant?

Ta,

Gillian
Gidzmo
2004-08-16 22:30:10 UTC
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Post by Gillian White
In the UK, are there any rules about who is able to be known as 'Her Majesty
The Queen'?

Perhaps this from the BritFAQ might help:

16. What are the different types of queen?
There are three types of queen in practise in Britain, but only one of them is
sovereign.

Queen Regnant
- a woman who actually reigns; a woman in the line of succession who succeeds
as Sovereign in her own right
- example: Princess Elizabeth was the first in line of succession and became
Queen upon the death of her father, King George VI, in 1952

Queen Consort
- the wife of a King; a woman who marries a man who is in the line of
succession who later becomes King or is already King at the time of their
marriage
- example: the former Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon married a man who was in line
of succession, Prince Albert, Duke of York; he later succeeded as King upon the
abdication of his brother (King Edward VIII) in 1936
- a Queen Consort is entitled to be called Queen (followed by her Christian
name) for the rest of her life, even after her husband dies

Queen Dowager
- the widow of a King; a woman who is the widow of a late reigning King
- example: HM Queen Mary became Queen Dowager following the death of her
husband HM King George V in 1936
- a particular type of Queen Dowager is one who uses the appellation 'Queen
Mother'
- example: following the death of her husband, King George VI in 1952, HM
Queen Elizabeth (1900-2002) chose to be called HM Queen Elizabeth the Queen
Mother; as a Queen Dowager, she is referred to as HM Queen Elizabeth, while her
daughter (the Queen Regnant) is referred to as HM The Queen
Frank Johansen
2004-08-16 22:53:00 UTC
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Post by Gillian White
In the UK, are there any rules about who is able to be known as 'Her Majesty
The Queen'? Does this style apply to a Queen Consort as well as a Queen
Regnant? For instance, was the Queen Mother previously 'HM The Queen' or 'HM
Queen Elizabeth'? Is the word 'The' reserved for a Queen Regnant?
The late Queen Mother could in the UK be adressed as "Her Majesty The
Queen" from 11 Dec 1936 to 6 Feb 1952, when she assumed the style "Her
Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother." After her death, the correct
way of styling her would be "Her late Majesty Queen Elizabeth", just as
we speak of her predecessors, "Queen Mary" and "Queen Alexandra."

To summarize the stylings of the late Queen Elizabeth:
04 Aug 1900 - 16 Feb 1904 Hon. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon
16 Feb 1904 - 26 Apr 1923 Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon
26 Apr 1923 - 11 Dec 1936 HRH The Duchess of York
11 Dec 1936 - 06 Feb 1952 HM The Queen
06 Feb 1936 - 30 Mar 2002 HM Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother

Regards
Frank H. Johansen
Francois R. Velde
2004-08-17 15:39:43 UTC
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Post by Gillian White
In the UK, are there any rules about who is able to be known as 'Her Majesty
The Queen'? Does this style apply to a Queen Consort as well as a Queen
Regnant? For instance, was the Queen Mother previously 'HM The Queen' or 'HM
Queen Elizabeth'? Is the word 'The' reserved for a Queen Regnant?
The late Queen Mother could in the UK be adressed as "Her Majesty The
Queen" from 11 Dec 1936 to 6 Feb 1952, when she assumed the style "Her
Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother." After her death, the correct
way of styling her would be "Her late Majesty Queen Elizabeth", just as
we speak of her predecessors, "Queen Mary" and "Queen Alexandra."
04 Aug 1900 - 16 Feb 1904 Hon. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon
16 Feb 1904 - 26 Apr 1923 Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon
26 Apr 1923 - 11 Dec 1936 HRH The Duchess of York
11 Dec 1936 - 06 Feb 1952 HM The Queen
06 Feb 1936 - 30 Mar 2002 HM Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother
If you really want to be picky, the last style (which I imagine
you meant to say was adopted 06 Feb 1952) only came into use
on Feb 14 in the Court Circular. From 6 Feb to 13 Feb
she was called "the Queen Mother" in the Court Circular.
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François R. Velde
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Frank Johansen
2004-08-17 15:58:19 UTC
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Post by Frank Johansen
Post by Gillian White
In the UK, are there any rules about who is able to be known as 'Her Majesty
The Queen'? Does this style apply to a Queen Consort as well as a Queen
Regnant? For instance, was the Queen Mother previously 'HM The Queen' or 'HM
Queen Elizabeth'? Is the word 'The' reserved for a Queen Regnant?
The late Queen Mother could in the UK be adressed as "Her Majesty The
Queen" from 11 Dec 1936 to 6 Feb 1952, when she assumed the style "Her
Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother." After her death, the correct
way of styling her would be "Her late Majesty Queen Elizabeth", just as
we speak of her predecessors, "Queen Mary" and "Queen Alexandra."
04 Aug 1900 - 16 Feb 1904 Hon. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon
16 Feb 1904 - 26 Apr 1923 Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon
26 Apr 1923 - 11 Dec 1936 HRH The Duchess of York
11 Dec 1936 - 06 Feb 1952 HM The Queen
06 Feb 1936 - 30 Mar 2002 HM Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother
If you really want to be picky, the last style (which I imagine
you meant to say was adopted 06 Feb 1952)
Obviously.
Post by Francois R. Velde
only came into use
on Feb 14 in the Court Circular. From 6 Feb to 13 Feb
she was called "the Queen Mother" in the Court Circular.
OK, thanks! Then I learned something new today too!

Regards
Frank H. Johansen
Gidzmo
2004-08-17 22:18:27 UTC
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04 Aug 1900 - 16 Feb 1904 the Hon. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon
(as daughter of Lord Glamis)
16 Feb 1904 - 26 Apr 1923 Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon
(as daughter of the Earl of Strathmore/Kinghorne)
26 Apr 1923 - 11 Dec 1936 HRH The Duchess of York
(upon her marriage and before the abdication)
11 Dec 1936 - 06 Feb 1952 HM The
Queen (as Queen Consort)
06 Feb 1936 (1952) - 30 Mar 2002 HM Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother
(after George VI's death in 1952)

Question: when George VI died, Dowager Queen Mary (his mother) was
still alive. How was Queen Elizabeth (George's widow) styled during the
interim between George's passing and Queen Mary's passing?

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