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Antoinette "Toni" Avril Gardiner
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Ken
2004-06-14 18:19:20 UTC
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It appears very little is known, or at least published, about the
ancestry of Antoinette "Toni" Avril Gardiner (Princess Muna), former
wife of King Hussein of Jordan, King Abdullah's (II) mother. Does
anyone know if she is of Jewish ancestry?
Don Aitken
2004-06-14 19:20:25 UTC
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Post by Ken
It appears very little is known, or at least published, about the
ancestry of Antoinette "Toni" Avril Gardiner (Princess Muna), former
wife of King Hussein of Jordan, King Abdullah's (II) mother. Does
anyone know if she is of Jewish ancestry?
I am sure that, if she was, those Jordanian groups opposed to the
monarchy would have been exploiting the fact long ago.
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Gill Web
2004-06-14 19:42:02 UTC
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Post by Ken
It appears very little is known, or at least published, about the
ancestry of Antoinette "Toni" Avril Gardiner (Princess Muna), former
wife of King Hussein of Jordan, King Abdullah's (II) mother. Does
anyone know if she is of Jewish ancestry?
I found the following on the website I've linked if you want to read all of it. No mention really
but I think this gives a clue that she was probably not Jewish before her conversion;

"In 1961 the king married Antoinette (Toni) Gardiner, the daughter of a British army colonel
assigned to Jordan at that time to help train the Jordanian army. This match provoked a lot of
subdued opposition in Jordan. The obvious ground for objection was that Miss Gardiner was a subject
of Britain, whose country's colonial policies had hurt, and were still hurting, the Arabs.

A more fundamental objection among King Hussein's countrymen, to my surprise, was that Toni Gardiner
had "dated Western-style," that is with no chaperon present, which was incompatible with Arab
tradition. In fact, she had earlier dated a young American Embassy colleague of mine when I was
still stationed in Jordan.

However, the union of King Hussein and Princess Muna, as she was renamed, lasted 11 years and
produced Abdullah, who in 1999 became King Abdullah, his brother Feisal, and twin girls Zein and
Ayesha. The king and his British bride divorced in 1972 and both sons received much of their
education in the United States."

See; http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0499/9904013.html


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Ken
2004-06-15 17:04:10 UTC
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This is what I found somewhere else, but wondered if anyone might
point out more. Notice that several of her Great, Great, >...
ancestors had what appear to be Jewish or at least Biblical names. I
welcome any further information anyone might have.
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Ancestry of Antoinette Avril Gardiner (b. 1941)

compiled by William Addams Reitwiesner
The following material on the immediate ancestry of Princess Muna
al-Hussein, mother of King Abdullah of Jordan, should not be
considered either exhaustive or definitive, but rather as a first
draft.

William Addams Reitwiesner
***@erols.com

Ancestry of Antoinette Avril Gardiner
1 Antoinette Avril Gardiner, converted to Islam and renamed Muna al
Hussein, created 30 Jan. 1962 HRH Princess Muna, b. Chelmondiston,
Ipswich, Suffolk, 25 April 1941
m. Amman, Jordan, 25 May 1961, div. ... 1972
Hussein ibn Talal, b. Amman 14 Nov. 1935, appointed Crown Prince of
Jordan 9 Sept. 1951, succeeded 11 Aug. 1952 as Hussein I, King of the
Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, d. Amman 7 Feb. 1999, son of Talal I,
King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, and of Zein al-Sharaf.
Issue includes: A. Abdullah II, King of the Hashemite
Kingdom of Jordan, b. Amman 30 Jan. 1962

PARENTS
2 Col. Walter Percy Gardiner, MC, b. Stanford RD, Norfolk
[registration district: Swaffham], 12 Dec. 1914
m. at the Parish Church, Chelmondiston, Suffolk, 24 Dec. 1938
(witnesses: J.W. Hayward, M.J. Gardiner, A. Sutton)
3 Doris Elizabeth Sutton, b. ... (ae. 22 at marriage, thus b. ca.
1916)

GRANDPARENTS
4 Arthur Gardiner, b. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, ... [ca.
1880], in 1881 living with parents in Chelmondiston, in 1901 a
haybinder in Chelmondiston, in 1914 a game keeper, in 1938 a dock
labourer in Chelmondiston
m.
5 Mabel Jane Tovell, b. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 16 Jan. 1879
[IGI], in 1881 living with parents in Chelmondiston
6 Arthur Sutton, in 1938 a shepherd in Chelmondiston
m.
7 ----

GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
8 John Gardiner, b. Shotley, Suffolk, 12 March 1843 [IGI], appears in
Chelmondiston in the 1881 census, in 1901 a haybinder in Chelmondiston
m.
9 Esther Scarph, b. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, ... [ca. 1847],
in 1861 living with parents in Chelmondiston, in 1881 living in
Chelmondiston, in 1901 living in Chelmondiston
10 Daniel Tovell, b. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, ... 1841 [IGI],
in 1851 living with parents in Chelmondiston, in 1861 a carpenter in
Chelmondiston, in 1881 a mariner in Chelmondiston, d. .. 3 Feb. 1919
m. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 2 Dec. 1872
11 Ada Alberta King, b. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, ... 1853
[IGI], in 1861 living with parents in Chelmondiston, living 1881 in
Chelmondiston

GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
16 Samuel Gardiner
m. Shotley, Suffolk, 29 Oct. 1835 [IGI],
17 Elizabeth Bradbrook
18 Thomas Scarff, bapt. Woolverstone, Suffolk, 20 Sept. 1806 [IGI],
in 1841 an agricultural labourer in Chelmondiston, in 1861 a farm
labourer in Chelmondiston, in 1871 an agricultural labourer in
Chelmondiston
m. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 31 Oct. 1834 [IGI]
19 Ann Brooks, b. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 10 March 1811
[IGI], in 1841 living in Chelmondiston, in 1861 living in
Chelmondiston, in 1871 living in Chelmondiston, in 1881 living in
Chelmondiston
20 Daniel Tovell, b. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 16 Aug. 1795
[IGI], in 1841 a carpenter in Chelmondiston, in 1851 a carpenter and
joiner in Chelmondiston, in 1861 a carpenter in Chelmondiston, in 1871
a carpenter in Chelmondiston
m. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 24 Apr. 1826 [IGI]
21 Maria Cleveland, b. Ipswich, Suffolk, ... [ca. 1806], living 1841
in Chelmondiston, living 1851 in Chelmondiston, living 1861 in
Chelmondiston
22 Albert King [AFN:7DTM-C5], b. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 20
June 1827, in 1861 a publican in Chelmondiston, in 1871 a mariner in
Chelmondiston, d. ... [after 1911]
m. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 14 May 1848 [IGI]
23 Meranda Potter [AFN:F133-J0], b. Ipswich, Suffolk, .. [ca. 1829],
living 1861 in Chelmondiston, living 1871 in Chelmondiston

GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
36 John Scarff
m.
37 Sarah ----
38 John Brooks
m.
39 Sarah Hewke
40 Samuel Tovell
m. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 9 Apr. 1787 [IGI]
41 Martha Manning, b. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 16 June 1765
[IGI]
44 William King [AFN:7DTJ-N9], bapt. Parish Church of St. Andrew,
Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 29 Oct. 1782, d. ... [by 1855]
m. Parish Church of St. Andrew, Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk, 11
May 1810
45 Martha Braeme [AFN:7DTJ-PG], b. Chelmondiston, Ipswich, Suffolk,
... [ca. 1786]
46 John Potter
m. St. Lawrence, Ipswich, Suffolk, 23 Nov. 1828 [IGI]
47 Miranda Simpson, b. Ipswich, Suffolk, 25 Apr. 1793 [IGI]
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
82 John Manning
m.
83 Martha Asby
88 Abraham King [AFN:F131-QQ], b. ... [ca. 1756]
m.
89 Elizabeth Hayward [AFN:F131-RW], b. ... [ca. 1760]
90 Robert Braeme [AFN:F131-S3], b. ... [ca. 1760]
m.
91 Sarah ---- [AFN:F131-T8], b. ... 1764
94 James Simpson
m.
95 Miranda Ranson, b. Chelsworth, Suffolk, 23 Jan. 1766 [IGI]

GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS
190 Christopher Ranson
m.
191 Elizabeth ----
GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDPARENTS

7/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS

8/GREAT-GRANDPARENTS

NOTES
8 -- An entry from the 1901 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
John Gardiner, 60, haybinder, b Shotley, Suffolk
Esther Gardiner, wife, 54, b Chelmondiston
John F. Gardiner, son, 34, mariner sea, b Chelmondiston
Ernest G. Gardiner, son, 32, mariner, b Shotley
Minnie Gardiner, dau, 23, b Shotley
Arthur Gardiner, son, 21, haybinder, b Chelmondiston
Gertrude Gardiner, dau, 13, b Chelmondiston

8 -- An entry from the 1881 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
John Gardner, 39, b Shotley
Esther Gardner, wife, 34, b Chelmondiston
John T. Gardner, son, 14, b Shotley
Ernest G. Gardner, son, 12, b Shotley
Alice M Gardner, dau, 10, b Shotley
Claud Gardner, son, 8, b Shotley
Minnie Gardner, dau, 3, b Shotley
Arthur Gardner, son, 1, b Chelmondiston
Ann Scarph, mother-in-law, 70, b Chelmondiston

10 -- An entry from the 1881 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
Daniel Tovell, 37, mariner, b Chelmondiston
Ada A. Tovell, wife, 28, b Chelmondiston
Beatrice Tovell, dau, 6, b Chelmondiston
George A. Tovell, son, 4, b Chelmondiston
Mable J. Tovell, dau, 2, b Chelmontiston

18 -- An entry from the 1871 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
Thomas Scarph, 64, ag lab, b Woolverstone
Ann Scarph, 60, wife, b Chelmondiston

18 -- An entry from the 1861 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
Thomas Scarff, 56, farm labourer, b Woolverstone
Ann Scarff, 50, wife, b Chelmondiston
Esther Scarff, 14, dau, b Chelmondiston

18 -- An entry from the 1841 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
Thomas Scarf, 35, ag lab
Ann Scarf, 30
John Scarf, 5
Sarah Scarf, 3

20 -- An entry from the 1871 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
Daniel Tovell, 72, carpenter, b Chelmondiston
Charlotte Scott, 58, housekeeper, b Ipswich

20 -- An entry from the 1861 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
Daniel Tovell, 62, carpenter, b Chelmondiston
Maria Tovell, 55, b Ipswich
Daniel Tovell, 17, carpenter, b Chelmondiston

20 -- An entry from the 1851 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
Daniel Tovell, 52, head, carpenter and joiner, b Chelmondiston
Maria Tovell, 45, wife, b Ipswich
Susannah Tovell, dau, 20, schoolmistress, b Chelmondiston
Walter Tovell, son, 18, bricklayer, b Chelmondiston
Maria Tovell, dau, 17, b Chelmondiston
Jane Tovell, dau, 14, b Chelmondiston
John Tovell, son, 13, bricklayer's boy, b Chelmondiston
Daniel Tovell, son, 7, b Chelmondiston
Samuel Tovell, boarder, 23, mariner, b Chelmondiston

20 -- An entry from the 1841 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
Daniel Tovell, 40, carpenter, b Chelmondiston
Maria Tovell, 35, b Chelmondiston
Samuel Tovell, 13, b Chelmondiston
Walter Tovell, 10, b Chelmondiston
John Tovell, 3, b Chelmondiston
Susannah Tovell, 11, b Chelmondiston
Maria Tovell, 7, b Chelmondiston
Jane Tovell, 5, b Chelmondiston
Helen Tovell, 1, b Chelmondiston
Elizabeth Simpson, 60, nurse, b Chelmondiston

22 -- An entry from the 1871 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
Albert King, 43, head, mariner, b Chelmondiston
Marinda King, 42, wife, b Ipswich
Benjamin King, 13, son, b Chelmondiston
Ernest Albert King, 11, son, b Chelmondiston
Joseph King, 9, son, b Chelmondiston
Anna Mariah King, 6, dau, b Chelmondiston
Oliver King, 4, dau, b Chelmondiston
Charles Percy King, 1 son, b Chelmondiston

22 -- An entry from the 1861 census of Chelmondiston, Suffolk:
Albert King, 33, head, publican, b Chelmondiston
Marinda King, 32, wife, b Ipswich
Theophilus King, 12, son, b Chelmondiston
Harriet King, 10, dau, b Chelmondiston
Ada King, 7, dau, b Chelmondiston
Ben King, 3, son, b Chelmondiston
Earnest King, 1, son, b Chelmondiston

SOURCES CONSULTED AND CITED

http://www.familyorigins.com/users/p/i/t/Jessie-E-Pitt/FAMO4-0001/d10.htm

An anonymous correspondent who supplied the birth certificate of
number 2, the marriage certificate of numbers 2 and 3, and the entry
from the 1901 census of Chelmondiston for number 8 and family

William Addams Reitwiesner
***@aol.com

Christopher Buyers
2004-06-15 04:32:14 UTC
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Post by Ken
It appears very little is known, or at least published, about the
ancestry of Antoinette "Toni" Avril Gardiner (Princess Muna), former
wife of King Hussein of Jordan, King Abdullah's (II) mother. Does
anyone know if she is of Jewish ancestry?
Very unlikely.

Although her father won the MC and rose to the rank of a full Colonel,
both father and mother were from quite humble origins. Both
grandfather's were either farmers or farm labourers from
Chelmondiston, near Ipswich, in Suffolk.

Cheers,
Christopher Buyers
EuroStamm
2004-06-15 15:18:15 UTC
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Subject: Antoinette "Toni" Avril Gardiner
Date: 6/14/2004 2:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time
It appears very little is known, or at least published, about the
ancestry of Antoinette "Toni" Avril Gardiner (Princess Muna), former
wife of King Hussein of Jordan, King Abdullah's (II) mother. Does
anyone know if she is of Jewish ancestry?
See <http://members.aol.com/eurostamm/muna.html> for her ancestry.
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