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Aristocratic deaths, May, 2004
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The Lady Margaret Colville, CVO, long serving courtier, a great and
lifelong friend of the Queen & an early lady-in-waiting to the then
Princess Elizabeth, and in recent years a Woman of of the Bedchamber
to Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, has died.

Lady Margaret died in hospital, 3 May, 2004, at the age of 85.

She was the former Lady Margaret Egerton, born 20 July, 1918, fifth of
the six daughters (with one brother) of the 4th Earl of Ellesmere
(1872-1944), by his wife, Lady Violet Lambton, daughter of the 4th
Earl of Durham.

She was brought up at Bridgewater House in London (sold by Lord
Ellesmere circa 1949). This was described as London's largest private
residence. Heavy death duties on his succession to the title forced
her brother to sell the property to the British Oxygen Company.

Of her siblings, the brother, John inherited the Earldom of Ellesmere,
and then in 1963 he succeeded his kinsman as 6th Duke of Sutherland.
He died in 2000. Her younger sister, Lady Alice, was a Woman of the
Bedchamber to the Queen, and died in 1977, unmarried.

Lady Margaret was endowed with a beautiful singing voice, and had been
wont to sing a metrical psalm "The Lord is My Shepherd" (Crimond), in
the heather at Balmoral, and taught Princess Elizabeth and Princess
Margaret a little known descant.

Lady Margaret - known as Meg - served in the Second World War in the
ATS (Junior Subaltern); and was appointed Lady-in-Waiting to the young
Princess Elizabeth in 1946, and remained in the post for three years
until her husband's appointment in the Diplomatic Service took her to
Lisbon.

She was one of the ladies in waiting on the Princess in Westminster
Abbey, 20 Nov 1947, when the Princess married Lieutenant Philip
Mountbatten. Princess Elizabeth remembered Lady Margaret's "The Lord
is My Shepherd" and decided to have this at her wedding, but nobody
could find the score of the descant. Lady Meg, tunefully accompanied
by the two Princesses sang it to the organist and preceptor of
Westminster Abbey who took down notes in musical shorthand and taught
it to the Abbey choir.

In 1948 she married at St Margaret's, Westminster, John (Jock)
Colville (later Sir John), who had been appointed Private Secretary to
Princess Elizabeth on her marriage. Colville had been a private
secretary to Winston Churchill during the war. In 1949 she accompanied
her husband to Lisbon - where he served as Counsellor - and when
Churchill formed his second administration in 1951 she and her husband
returned to London where John Colville was appointed Joint Principal
Private Secretary to the PM.

A memo in the Royal Archives from Sir Alan Lascelles (GeorgeVI's
private secretary) to the King informing HM of Colville's return to
Britain and new appointment has a postscript in the king's own hand
"This is interesting. It will suit Meg no doubt to get home. G.R."

The Colvilles had a daughter (Elizabeth) Harriet in 1952, followed by
a son, Alexander in 1955, and another son Rupert in 1960. The daughter
was christened in February, 1953, with the Queen and Prime Minister
(Churchill) standing sponsor.
(The other sponsors were Mrs Willie Whitelaw now Viscountess Whitelaw,
and the Earl of Home, later the Prime Minister Alec Douglas-Home).

Harriet Colville went on to marry a cousin of the Queen, David Bowes
Lyon, and has been a Lady-in-Waiting to the Princess Royal since 1990.

Lady Margaret's husband (who was knighted in 1974), died in November,
1987, aged 72.

In later years, after her widowhood, Lady Margaret resumed her royal
service becoming a Woman of the Bedchamber to the Queen Mother in 1990
and remaining in the post until Her Majesty's death in 2002. Lady
Margaret was invested CVO by the Queen at Buckingham Palace in July,
1994.

The funeral takes place at St Mary's, Broughton, Hampshire, near her
home, on Monday 10 May, 2004.

The 11th Duke of Devonshire, KG, PC, MP, died at Chatsworth House,
Monday 3 May, 2004, aged 84, having enjoyed the Devonshire peerages
for longer than any of his predecessors. Knight of the Garter since
1996, husband since 1941 of the Hon. Deborah Freeman-Mitford, DCVO,
daughter of the Baron Redesdale; he is succeeded by his only surv.
son, Peregrine Andrew Morny Cavendish, CBE, styled Marquess of
Hartington, Her Majesty's Representative at Ascot since 1998; b. 27
April, 1944, married since 1967 to Amanda Heywood-Lonsdale (descended
from the Earls of Leven & Melville). The heir to the peerages is now
William, Earl of Burlington, b. 6 June, 1969, and if he fails to
provide male issue, the dukedom (and Chatsworth?) will pass to a
kinsman, and life peer, Baron Cavendish of Furness.

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2004-05-07 01:41:39 UTC
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The Lady Deedes, wife of the former Cabinet Minister and editor of the
Daily Telegraph, Lord Deedes, died from cancer, 5 May, 2004. She was
aged 88.

Lady Deedes was born (Evelyn) Hilary Branfoot, 16 June, 1915, daughter
of Clive Branfoot, of Stonegrave, Yorkshire, a member of a Tyneside
shipowning family, and was educated at Sherborne School for Girls.

She married the then Major William (Bill) Deedes, of the KRRC, in
1942.

A countrywoman who avoided the metropolis, she concentrated on
achieving self-sufficiency on her smallholding. She rode to hounds,
bred cows and sheep, whose wool she would recycle on her spinning
wheel. Members of the Deedes family would be found wearing her knitted
trousers and pullovers.

From the Daily Telegraph: "For many years, the only publicity she
attracted was when accompanying her husband at official events. But
after Bill retired from the paper's editorship in 1986 and started to
write his weekly column, occasional references crept in about her
activities. Reader interest quickened as he recounted the love life of
the sow Harriet, which started cohabiting with Basil, a boar belonging
to the Archbishop of Canterbury, Robert Runcie".

Her husband (Denis Thatcher's "Dear Bill" in Private Eye) was
Conservative MP for the Ashford Division of Kent, 1950-74, Joint
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Home Office, 1955-57, Minister
without Portfolio, 1962-64; Editor, Daily Telegraph, 1974-86; sworn of
the Privy Council in 1962, and created a life Baron as Baron Deedes,
of Aldington, Kent, 1986; KBE 1999.

Lady Deedes is survived by her husband - 91 next month - her son the
Hon Jeremy Wyndham Deedes, who is chief executive of the Telegraph
Group, and their three daughters, the Hon Juliet, the Hon Victoria,
and the Lady Latymer, wife of the 9th Baron; another son predeceased her.
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Lady Deedes is survived by her husband - 91 next month - her son the
Hon Jeremy Wyndham Deedes, who is chief executive of the Telegraph
Group, and their three daughters, the Hon Juliet, the Hon Victoria,
and the Lady Latymer, wife of the 9th Baron; another son predeceased her.
Correction: Her yst daughter was divorced from the current Lord
Latymer in 1995 before he succeeded to the peerage.
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2004-05-07 23:54:41 UTC
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Dame Jean Maxwell Scott, DCVO, chatelaine of one of Scotland's top
tourist attractions, and a descendant of the author Sir Walter Scott,
has died aged 80.

Dame Jean, a Lady-in-Waiting to Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester
for 45 years, died at her home, Abbotsford, Melrose, Roxburghshire, 5
May, 2004.

Dame Jean is the second of Princess Alice's ladies in waiting to die
in recent weeks (the other was Mrs Harvey), & both ladies were several
decades younger than the 102 yr-old HRH.

Jean Mary Maxwell was born 8 June, 1923, younger daughter of
Major-General Sir Walter Maxwell-Scott, 1st Baronet, CB, DSO, DL, of
Abbotsford, by his wife Mairi MacDougall of Lunga, and was educated at
the Convent des Oiseaux, Westgate-on-Sea.

Career: VAD Red Cross Nurse, 1941-46. Lady-in-Waiting to Princess
Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, from 1959; CVO 1969; DCVO 1984.

Her home, Abbotsford, -overlooking the River Tweed and built in 1822 -
was the former home of Sir Walter Scott (her great great great
grandfather), one of Britain's greatest and most prolific 19th century
authors, and it is a virtual shrine to the author's memory.

For many years Abbotsford has been the second top tourist attraction
in the Scottish borders (after the Duke of Roxburghe's Floors Castle).
Dame Jean's library there contains more than 9,000 rare volumes. A
decade ago priceless heirlooms were stolen from the house, including a
whisky flask belonging to Prince Charles Edward Stuart (the Young
Pretender), a snuff box belonging to the Old Pretender, a seal used by
Mary, Queen of Scots, and Sir Walter's personal tea service.

Dame Jean never married.

The funeral Mass takes place at the Church of Our Lady & St Andrew,
Galashiels, Friday 14 May, 2004.
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Dame Jean Maxwell Scott, DCVO, chatelaine of one of Scotland's top
tourist attractions, and a descendant of the author Sir Walter Scott,
has died aged 80.
Dame Jean, a Lady-in-Waiting to Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester
for 45 years, died at her home, Abbotsford, Melrose, Roxburghshire, 5
May, 2004.
Dame Jean is the second of Princess Alice's ladies in waiting to die
in recent weeks (the other was Mrs Harvey), & both ladies were several
decades younger than the 102 yr-old HRH.
My newest Whitaker's Almanack is the 1998...but as of then,
Dame Jean Maxwell-Scott and Mrs. Michael Harvey were Princess
Alice Duchess of Gloucester's ONLY Ladies-in-Waiting,so unless
there have been new appointments since then this job category
has been wiped out.

There were at that time two Extra Ladies in Waiting,
Miss Diana Harrison and Miss Jane Egerton-Warburton.
If still there,I suppose they might be promoted.

The only other listed members of HRH's household were
shared with her son and daughter-in-law,who however had
their own Ladies and Extra Ladies-in-Waiting.

I wonder what the range of birth years for members of her
household has been,I expect not yet as impressive as that
of the late Queen Mother.

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2004-05-11 01:39:22 UTC
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Dame Jean Maxwell Scott, DCVO, chatelaine of one of Scotland's top
tourist attractions, and a descendant of the author Sir Walter Scott,
has died aged 80.
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The Daily Telegraph obituary says that following her elder sister's
death in 1998 it was discovered that her will, which left Abbotsford
to her sister, contained a clause insisting that Dame Jean "adopt and
use" the surname Scott of Abbotsford. Dame Jean complied, although she
continued to use her given surname in day-do-day business, going by
her "new" name only in formal circumstances.

Dame Jean professed herself mystified by her sister's stipulation,
which she had never mentioned in her lifetime: "I would love to know
what had been in Patricia's mind. I do not know whether Sir Walter
Scott himself ever used the title Scott of Abbotsford, but I know his
daughter Ann was known as Miss Scott of Abbotsford."

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Nesta Anne Barclay, who died 5 May, 2004, was the widow of Major
Robert Edward Barclay, TD, (1906-59),of Bury Hill, Dorking, Surrey,
scion of the landed family of Barclay formerly of Mathers and Urie.
She was Nesta Anne, elder dau of Major James Robert Bury-Barry, OBE,
DL, of Ballyclough, Kilworth, Co Cork, & Elvington Hall, Yorkshire
(scion of an Irish landed family), and married Maj. Barclay in 1932.
She leaves 2 daughters, (i) Annette, Lady Cecil (b. 1934), wife of
Rear-Admiral Sir Nigel Cecil (of the Barons Amherst of Hackney), &
(ii) Isabel (b. 1939.
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Noreen, Lady Southby, who died suddenly at her home, 1 May, 2004, aged
93, was the second wife, and widow, of Commander Sir Archibald Richard
James Southby, RN, 1st Baronet, who died in 1969.

She was Noreen Vera Simm, daughter of Bernard Compton Simm, of
Ashbourne, Derbyshire, and married Sir Archibald in 1962.

The funeral takes place at St Peter's Church, Parkstone, Poole,
Thursday 13 May, 2004.
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The mourners attending the splendidly done funeral of the 11th Duke of
Devonshire, KG, at Chatsworth House, Derbyshire, on Monday 10 May,
were bearing a second grievous loss - the death on the previous day of
the new Duchess of Devonshire's mother.

Mrs June Heywood Lonsdale, octogenarian mother of Amanda, the Duchess
of Devonshire, died on Sunday 9 May.

She was born June Grace Shakespeare, daughter of Walter Shakespeare,
of Sefton, Weybridge, Surrey, and according to press reports was a
direct descendant of the Bard himself - William Shakespeare.

She married 3 November, 1932, Commander Edward Gavin Heywood Lonsdale,
DSC and bar, JP (1904-61), scion of the Heywood Lonsdale landed
family, and a grandson maternally of the 1st Baron Hamilton of
Dalzell.

Her husband commanded the frigate HMS Magpie on which the Duke of
Edinburgh served as a junior officer.

June Heywood Lonsdale was the mother of three, a son Peter, born in
1939, a son David born in 1942, and an only daughter, Amanda Carmen,
born 18 April, 1944.

The daughter, a great beauty, was a debutante in 1962. In June 1967,
Amanda became the society bride of the year when she wed Peregrine
(Stoker), Marquess of Hartington, 23, son and heir of the 11th Duke of
Devonshire. Guests at the Church of St Martin-in-the-Fields included
the Queen (in a white dress and green coat) and Queen Mother (in a
blue and green floral dress and hat). The bride was given in marriage
by her brother, Peter.

In the early days of their marriage the new Duke and Duchess shared a
home in Wimbledon with Mrs Heywood Lonsdale, and gossip columnists
recorded the Hartington's foreign holidays - frequently with "Junie"
among the guests. Dempster oft reported Hartington's "slavish
devotion" to Junie Heywood Lonsdale.

There will be a service of Thanksgiving at The Priory Church, Bolton
Abbey (on the Duke's Yorkshire estate), on Monday 17 May, 2004.
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Mrs June Heywood Lonsdale, octogenarian mother of Amanda, the Duchess
of Devonshire, died on Sunday 9 May.
She was born June Grace Shakespeare, daughter of Walter Shakespeare,
of Sefton, Weybridge, Surrey, and according to press reports was a
direct descendant of the Bard himself - William Shakespeare.
After some googling and some thought I realise the above statement can
be shot down in flames. Shakespeare left no male line Shakespeares to
carry on his name. His legitimate line failed centuries ago.
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Mrs June Heywood Lonsdale, octogenarian mother of Amanda, the Duchess
of Devonshire, died on Sunday 9 May.
She was born June Grace Shakespeare, daughter of Walter Shakespeare,
of Sefton, Weybridge, Surrey, and according to press reports was a
direct descendant of the Bard himself - William Shakespeare.
After some googling and some thought I realise the above statement can
be shot down in flames. Shakespeare left no male line Shakespeares to
carry on his name. His legitimate line failed centuries ago.
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The Rev. Canon Sir Nicholas Rivett-Carnac, 8th Baronet, Pastor, of
Ashburnham Place, Battle, 1993-96, Honorary Canon of Southwark
Cathedral, 1980-96, since when Canon Emeritus, died suddenly after
mowing the lawn at his home, 4 May, 2004. He was aged 76.

Thomas Nicholas Rivett-Carnac was born 3 June, 1927, son of
Vice-Admiral William James Rivett-Carnac, CB, CBE, DSO (1891-1970)
(second son of Rev. Sir George Rivett-Carnac, 6th Baronet, 1850-1932),
by his wife, Isla Nesta, who died in 1974.

He was educated at Marlborough College.

Career: Scots Guards, 1945-55, as a Captain, served in Malaya and was
mentioned in despatches; with the Probation Service, 1957-59; Ordained
a priest in the Church of England, 1963; he began his ministry as
Curate of Holy Trinity Church, Rotherhithe, between 1963 and 1968;
Holy Trinity, Brompton, 1968-72; Vicar of St. Mark's, Kennington,
1972-89; Rural Dean of Lambeth, 1978-82; Pastor, Kingdom Faith
Ministries, Roffey Place, Horsham, 1989-93.

He married in 1977, Susan Marigold MacTier Copeland, daughter of
Harold and Adeline Copeland. No children of the marriage.

Nicholas Rivett-Carnac succeeded to the baronetcy on the demise of his
uncle, Sir Henry George Crabbe Rivett-Carnac, (b. 1889) in 1972.

The 1st Baronet had been chairman of the East India Company 1836-37
and 1837-38, MP for Sandwich 1838-39, and Governor of Bombay 1839-41.
His father James Rivett assumed by Royal Warrant in 1801 the
additional surname of Carnac.

The 4th Baronet, Sir Claud James, having been missing for many years,
an order was issued in the Chancery Division, 11 March, 1924,
presuming his death to have taken place 31 Dec, 1909.

Sir Nicholas is succeeded in the baronetcy by his younger brother
Miles James Rivett-Carnac, born 7 February, 1933, of The Manor House,
Martyr Worthy, Winchester, a former High Sheriff of Hampshire, who is
married with two sons and one daughter. The daughter, Lucinda (Lulu),
is the ubiquitous handbag designer Lulu Guinness, who married the Hon
Valentine Guinness, second son of the 3rd Baron Moyne.
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The Rev. Canon Sir Nicholas Rivett-Carnac, 8th Baronet, Pastor, of
Ashburnham Place, Battle, 1993-96, Honorary Canon of Southwark
Cathedral, 1980-96, since when Canon Emeritus, died suddenly after
mowing the lawn at his home, 4 May, 2004. He was aged 76.
Thomas Nicholas Rivett-Carnac was born 3 June, 1927, son of
Vice-Admiral William James Rivett-Carnac, CB, CBE, DSO (1891-1970)
(second son of Rev. Sir George Rivett-Carnac, 6th Baronet, 1850-1932),
by his wife, Isla Nesta, who died in 1974.
He was educated at Marlborough College.
Career: Scots Guards, 1945-55, as a Captain, served in Malaya and was
mentioned in despatches; with the Probation Service, 1957-59; Ordained
a priest in the Church of England, 1963; he began his ministry as
Curate of Holy Trinity Church, Rotherhithe, between 1963 and 1968;
Holy Trinity, Brompton, 1968-72; Vicar of St. Mark's, Kennington,
1972-89; Rural Dean of Lambeth, 1978-82; Pastor, Kingdom Faith
Ministries, Roffey Place, Horsham, 1989-93.
He married in 1977, Susan Marigold MacTier Copeland, daughter of
Harold and Adeline Copeland. No children of the marriage.
Nicholas Rivett-Carnac succeeded to the baronetcy on the demise of his
uncle, Sir Henry George Crabbe Rivett-Carnac, (b. 1889) in 1972.
The 1st Baronet had been chairman of the East India Company 1836-37
and 1837-38, MP for Sandwich 1838-39, and Governor of Bombay 1839-41.
His father James Rivett assumed by Royal Warrant in 1801 the
additional surname of Carnac.
The 4th Baronet, Sir Claud James, having been missing for many years,
an order was issued in the Chancery Division, 11 March, 1924,
presuming his death to have taken place 31 Dec, 1909.
Sir Nicholas is succeeded in the baronetcy by his younger brother
Miles James Rivett-Carnac, born 7 February, 1933, of The Manor House,
Martyr Worthy, Winchester, a former High Sheriff of Hampshire, who is
married with two sons and one daughter. The daughter, Lucinda (Lulu),
is the ubiquitous handbag designer Lulu Guinness, who married the Hon
Valentine Guinness, second son of the 3rd Baron Moyne.
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The Carnac arms are strikingly similar to the arms granted by Lord
Lyon to American Secretary of State General Colin Powell.
Michael Rhodes
2004-05-18 09:54:53 UTC
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(Margaret) Yvonne Crewe-Read, who died 12 May, 2004, in Perthshire,
aged 86, was the widow of Lt-Col Randulph Offley Crewe-Read, MC (b.
1912, d.?), scion of that landed family, and was daughter of Thomas
Sydney Bevan, of Craiglyn, Swansea, and married 11 April, 1941. She
was the mother of a son, John (deceased), and a daughter Jane.
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Margaret (Jubby) Ford, who was found dead last week in her Brighton
flat, aged 39, was the former Margaret (always known as Jubby)
Ingrams, daughter of Richard Reid Ingrams (b. 1937), by his wife Mary
Morgan, and was a granddaughter of Leonard St Clair Ingrams, OBE, who
married in 1935, Victoria Susan Beatrice Reid (b. 1908), daughter of
Sir James Reid, GCVO, KCB, VD, MD, 1st Baronet, Physician in Ordinary
to Queen Victoria, by his wife, the Hon Susan Baring, Maid of Honour
to Queen Victoria, daughter of the 1st Baron Revelstoke.

Jubby Ingrams was also a niece of Rupert Ingrams who married a peeress
in her own right, Baroness Darcy de Knayth.

Jubby Ingrams married in 1990, David Lionel Ford (b. 1952), yr son of
Sir Edward William Spencer Ford, GCVO, KCB ERD (b. 1910) Assistant
Private Secretary to King George VI and to Queen Elizabeth II
(descended from the Earls of Shrewsbury), by his wife, Virginia
(1918-95), daughter of the 1st and last Baron Brand, CMG (1878-1963),
by his wife Phyllis Langhorne, dau of Chiswell Dabney Langhorne, of
Mirador, Greenwood, Virginia, United States.

Mrs Ford leaves issue.
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Margaret (Jubby) Ford, who was found dead last week in her Brighton
flat, aged 39, was the former Margaret (always known as Jubby)
Ingrams, daughter of Richard Reid Ingrams (b. 1937), by his wife Mary
Morgan, and was a granddaughter of Leonard St Clair Ingrams, OBE, who
married in 1935, Victoria Susan Beatrice Reid (b. 1908), daughter of
Sir James Reid, GCVO, KCB, VD, MD, 1st Baronet, Physician in Ordinary
to Queen Victoria, by his wife, the Hon Susan Baring, Maid of Honour
to Queen Victoria, daughter of the 1st Baron Revelstoke.
Three things -

1) Her grandmother Mrs Ingrams (1908-199_) died some years back, and
she had an obit in the Daily Telegraph. She had four sons, all of
whom were raised as Catholics (she herself had converted before her
marriage) - the initial plan was for the odd-numbered children (1st
born, 3rd born) to be raised Anglicans, and the even-numbered children
(2nd born, 4th born) to be raised Catholics. She had all her children
baptized and raised Catholics behind her husband's back (although
evidently, he didn't raise too much of a storm about it). Two of her
sons, including Piers (husband of Baroness Darcy de Knayth)
predeceased Mrs Ingrams.

2) Richard Ingrams is the former editor of Private Eye...

3) Mrs Ford was, I calculate, a third cousin of the late Diana Frances
Spencer, Princess of Wales.

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2004-05-19 23:46:57 UTC
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Margaret (Jubby) Ford, who was found dead last week in her Brighton
flat, aged 39, was the former Margaret (always known as Jubby)
Ingrams, daughter of Richard Reid Ingrams (b. 1937), by his wife Mary
Morgan, and was a granddaughter of Leonard St Clair Ingrams, OBE, who
married in 1935, Victoria Susan Beatrice Reid (b. 1908), daughter of
Sir James Reid, GCVO, KCB, VD, MD, 1st Baronet, Physician in Ordinary
to Queen Victoria, by his wife, the Hon Susan Baring, Maid of Honour
to Queen Victoria, daughter of the 1st Baron Revelstoke.
Jubby Ford died 12 May, 2004. Her children are Phoebe, Sam and lily.
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Three things -
1) Her grandmother Mrs Ingrams (1908-199_) died some years back, and
she had an obit in the Daily Telegraph. She had four sons, all of
whom were raised as Catholics (she herself had converted before her
marriage) - the initial plan was for the odd-numbered children (1st
born, 3rd born) to be raised Anglicans, and the even-numbered children
(2nd born, 4th born) to be raised Catholics. She had all her children
baptized and raised Catholics behind her husband's back (although
evidently, he didn't raise too much of a storm about it). Two of her
sons, including Piers (husband of Baroness Darcy de Knayth)
predeceased Mrs Ingrams.
Jubby's grandmother died 23 June, 1997, aged 89. Her Daily Telegraph
obituary appeared 28 June.


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Francis Baden-Powell, died 11 May, 2004. No age given in death notice
or details of his family. Scion of the Barons Baden-Powell? I spy a
Francis in the colls of the founder of the scouting movement. Is this
he?

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Major William Francis Garnett, late the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon
Guards, b. 23 January, 1922, head of the landed family of Garnett of
Quernmore Park, died 14 May, 2004, aged 82. He was married, and leaves
issue (at least) five daughters.

His father, Noel Trevor Garnett (1887-1961) married in 1921, Marie
Louise Descrambes, daughter of Vicomtesse de Montarby, formerly Madame
Descrambes.

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Admiral of the Fleet Baron Hill-Norton, GCB, Chief of Defence Staff,
1971-73 and Chairman of the Military Committee of Nato 1974-77, died
16 May, 2004, at the age of 89.

Peter John Hill-Norton was born 8 February, 1915, the son of Capt
Martin John Norton, and was educated at the Royal Naval College
Dartmouth.

Career: went to sea in 1932; commissioned in 1936; specialised in
gunnery 1939; served in the Second World War, 1939-45: Arctic Convoys;
NW Approaches; Admiralty Naval Staff; Commander 1948; Captain 1952;
Naval Attache, Argentine, Uruguay, and Paraguay, 1953-55; in Command
of HMS Decoy, 1956-57; in command of HMS Ark Royal, 1959-61; Assistant
Chief of the Naval Staff, 1962-64; Flag Officer, Second-in-Command,
Far East Fleet, 1964-66; Deputy Chief of the Defence Staff (Personnel
and Logistics) 1966; Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel,
Jan-Aug 1967; Vice-Chief of the Naval Staff, 1967-68;
Commander-in-Chief of the Far East, 1969-70; Chief of the Naval Staff
and First Sea Lord, 1970-71; Chief of the Defence Staff 1971-73;
President, the Sea Cadets Association, 1977-84; President, Defence
Manufacturers' Association, 1980-84; President, British Maritime
League, 1982-85; Vice-President, RUSI 1977-90; Liveryman, Shipwrights'
Co, 1973, Member of the Court 1979; Freeman of the City of London,
1973, &c.

He was appointed CB in 1964, KCB 1967, GCB 1970, and ennobled in 1979,
as Baron Hill-Norton, of South Nutfield, in the County of Surrey.

He married in 1936, Margaret Eileen, daughter of Carl Adolph Linstow,
by whom he had a son, Vice-Admiral Sir Nicholas John Hill-Norton, KCB,
and a daughter, Carla.
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From the Daily Telegraph, 20/05/2004:-

The 28th Lord Dunboyne, who died yesterday aged 87, was a circuit
judge whose most passionate legal interest was the cause of the Irish
peers denied their right to sit in the House of Lords.

Under the Union with Ireland Act which abolished the Dublin Parliament
in 1800, members of the Irish peerage were entitled to elect 28 of
their number to represent them in the upper house at Westminster. This
had been allowed to lapse when the Irish Free State was created in
1921, although those elected before then were allowed to stay; the
last survivor, the Earl of Kilmorey, died in 1961.

When reform of the Lords came on the agenda again in 1963, the
Macmillan government refused to restore the right, saying it would
damage relations with the Republic; the Dublin government primly
disclaimed any interest in the matter.

Dunboyne was the moving spirit in a group of Irish peers who
petitioned the House's committee for privileges in 1965. It was
rebuffed on the grounds that the Irish peers had been elected to serve
"on the part of Ireland" but Ireland, as a whole, was no longer part
of the United Kingdom.

An unsatisfactory feature of the case was that the committee had never
had put to it the argument that the Irish representative peers might
sit on the part of Northern Ireland. F H Maugham, the future Lord
Chancellor, and Wilfrid Green, the future Master of the Rolls, had
advised back in 1924 that this was the ground on which their right
subsisted.

Dunboyne was bitter about the outcome, and maintained his rigid
conviction that the representative peers sat on behalf of the peerage
of Ireland and could not be affected by the changed status of the
island; his attitude may also have owed something to the distaste for
Northern Ireland that he had shown as an undergraduate in the
Cambridge Union.

Patrick Theobald Tower Butler was born on January 27 1917 into an
Anglo-Norman Irish family descended from the 1st Lord of Dunboyne, who
received a writ of summons to the Irish Parliament in 1324. Succeeding
generations were periodically summoned to Parliament until the 11th
baron was granted letters patent in 1541.

The family were strong Roman Catholics until 1786, when the 22nd Lord
Dunboyne resigned as Bishop of Cork to marry in the hope of having an
heir. But he died without issue after returning to the Church; the
peerage passed to a Protestant branch of the family, from which
"Paddy" Dunboyne was descended.

His great-great-grandfather and grandfather sat at Westminster as
representative peers. He was educated at Winchester and Trinity,
Cambridge, where he won a tennis Blue and became President of the
Union.

At the outbreak of the Second World War, Butler was commissioned in
the Irish Guards Supplementary Reserve. He was wounded at Boulogne
before the Dunkirk evacuation in 1940 and taken prisoner. Unheard of
for a year, he was eventually traced to a German prisoner-of-war camp
from where, due to the loss of a lung, he was repatriated in 1943.

For a time he was on the list of suitable escorts to accompany the
young Princesses Elizabeth and Margaret to dances and theatre parties.
After succeeding his father, a captain in the Royal Navy, in 1945,
Dunboyne joined the Foreign Office before deciding to study Law. He
was called to the Bar by Middle Temple in 1949 and practised on the
South Eastern Circuit, doing mainly criminal work, though he was also
consulted on peerage law.

He was Recorder of Hastings from 1961 until 1971; deputy chairman of
Middlesex Quarter Sessions from 1963 until 1965; of Kent Sessions from
1963 to 1971, and then of Inner London Sessions for a year. In 1972 he
was appointed a circuit judge.

Charming and self-effacing in private, Dunboyne was a meticulous and
conscientious man who could seem somewhat testy on the bench, with a
penchant for interrupting counsel. More often than not, he appeared
inclined to take the side of the police, and he did not flinch from
handing down prison sentences to those convicted of violent offences
against them.

In 1983 he presided at the trial of a ballet teacher accused of biting
a policeman who had dragged her naked and handcuffed from her Chelsea
flat. Sentencing the woman to a month in prison, Dunboyne observed
that biting police officers was an offence "far too prevalent in the
Metropolitan area of London".

The woman later had her conviction quashed by the Court of Appeal, who
observed that Dunboyne had "poured a great deal of cold water" on her
only possible defence.

When trying another case in which a policeman was bitten (during the
Brixton Riots), Dunboyne clashed frequently with the defence counsel,
complaining that he could not understand the barrister's Indian
accent. The defendant was eventually acquitted by the jury on the
basis that he was acting in self-defence, but was convicted of
carrying a brick as an offensive weapon.

Sentencing the man to three months in prison, Dunboyne praised the
"discipline, devotion to duty and manly restraint" displayed by the
police. The defence counsel, who was chairman of the Society of Black
Lawyers, asked the Lord Chancellor to remove Dunboyne from the bench,
but to no avail.

In 1986 Dunboyne was glad to retire from the Bench to devote himself
to the genealogy of the Butler family, the passion of his later life -
he wrote a history of the family in 1966. He was active in the Butler
Society from its foundation in 1968, although he had an imperfect
sympathy with its founder, the Irish liberal essayist Hubert Butler,
and ceased to attend gatherings at its Kilkenny headquarters after the
outbreak of the Troubles.

He was tireless in following up the most obscure inquiries. Nothing
was too arcane or unpromising to engage his attention. A man above
snobbery, he longed to welcome as many as possible to the ranks of his
kinsmen. He was a fellow and one-time President of the Irish
Genealogical Research Society.

He produced a volume about the acid bath murderer John George Haigh
for the "Notable British Trials" series in 1953, and contributed to a
book about the Cambridge Union. In the latter he recalled how, as
president in 1939, he had "enlarged to the entire House the
prerogative of interruption. . . The consequence was that dignified
and restrained heckling was not merely permitted but encouraged".

In addition to managing the Irish peers' petition, Dunboyne took very
seriously his duties as Commissary General of the Diocese of
Canterbury from 1959 to 1971.

Lord Dunboyne started the Bar Lawn Tennis Society, was president of
the Forty Five Lawn Tennis Club, and enjoyed rowing and chess.

In 1950 he married Anne Marie Mallett, daughter of Sir Victor Mallett,
British Ambassador in Rome. They had three daughters, and a son, John
Fitzwalter Butler, born in 1951, who succeeds to the peerage.
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Granville Hugh Hastings Wheler, of Otterde, Kent, and Ledston,
Yorkshire, scion of an old landed family (the Wheler Baronets also
descended from this family), died at Harrogate, North Yorkshire, 15
May, 2004. He leaves a brother Charles, and was predeceased by a
sister, Margaret.

The Baron Murray of Epping Forest, OBE, PC, General Secretary of the
Trades Union Congress (as Mr Len Murray) 1973-84, a life peer since
1985, died 20 May, 2004, aged 81.
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Major-General David Tabor, CB, MC, late the Royal Horse Guards,
General Officer Commanding the Eastern District, 1974-77, former
Silver Stick in Waiting and a cousin of the Queen, died 18 May, 2004.
He was 81.

David John St Maur Tabor was born 5 October, 1922, the third son of
Harry Ernest Tabor, of Beech House, Redcoats Green, Hitchin,
Hertfordshire, by his wife Madeline Frances, daughter of Francis Abel
Smith, of Wilford House, Nottinghamshire, by his wife, Madeline St
Maur, daughter of the Rev. Henry Seymour, scion of the Dukes of
Somerset.

He was educated at Eton College, and the Royal Military College,
Sandhurst.

Career: served in the Second World War as a 2nd Lieutenant, Royal
Horse Guards, 1942, and later in North West Europe, 1944-45 (was
wounded in 1944); promoted Major in 1946; Lieutenant-Colonel
Commanding, Royal Horse Guards, 1960; Lieutenant-Colonel Commanding
the Household Cavalry, and Silver Stick in Waiting, 1964; Colonel,
1964; Brigadier, 1966; Commander, Berlin Infantry Brigade, 1966;
Commander, British Army Staff and Military Attache at Washington,
United States,, 1968; Royal College of Defence Studies, 1971; promoted
Major-General, 1972.

Maj-Gen Tabor, of Compton Abdale, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, was
awarded the Military Cross in 1944, and created CB in 1977.

He was twice married, firstly, in 1955, to the Hon Pamela Roxane
Nivison, second daughter of the 2nd Baron Glendyne, by whom he had two
sons, Patrick and Andrew. Mrs Tabor died in 1987. He then married
secondly, 1989, (Beatrice) Marguerite, widow of Colonel Peter
Arkwright, late the 11th Hussars, and second (twin) daughter of Capt
Francis Reynolds Verdon, of Littlefields, Sidbury, Devon.
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Major-General David Tabor, CB, MC, late the Royal Horse Guards,
General Officer Commanding the Eastern District, 1974-77, former
Silver Stick in Waiting and a cousin of the Queen, died 18 May, 2004.
He was 81.
Maj-Gen Tabor's cousin, Lady Susan Mary Seymour, spinster daughter of
the 17th Duke of Somerset, died 23 May, 2004, aged 91.

The Hon Lady Worsley, chatelaine of Hovingham Hall, near York,
sister-in-law of HRH the Duchess of Kent, and wife of the former Lord
Lieutenant of North Yorkshire, Sir Marcus Worsley, 5th Baronet, died
at her home, 22 May, 2002. She was 77.

She was born Bridget Assheton, 20 August, 1926, the only daughter of
the then Ralph Assheton, of Downham, Hall, Clitheroe, by his wife the
Hon Sylvia Hotham, elder daughter of the 6th Baron Hotham (and a
kinswoman of Camilla Parker Bowles).

Bridget's father was a Conservative MP and later Chairman of the
Conservative & Unionist Party Organisation, created a peer in 1955, as
Baron Clitheroe. He died in 1984. Sylvia, Baroness Clitheroe died in
1991.

Bridget Asshelton served in World War II with the W.R.N.S.

She married, 10 December, 1955, the then (William) Marcus John
Worsley, heir to the baronetcy of his father, Colonel Sir William
Arthington Worsley. In 1961 her sister-in-law, Katharine Worsley,
became the bride, in York Minster, of HRH the Duke of Kent, a first
cousin of Queen Elizabeth II.

Her husband was successively a Conservative MP and then Lord
Lieutenant of North Yorkshire. He succeeded to the baronetcy on the
death of his father in 1973.

Lady Worsley is survived by her husband, 79, and by three sons,
William (heir to the baronetcy), Giles (journalist and architetural
writer married to the Times journalist Joanna Pitman, who delivered
one of her babies on the pavement outside a London hospital), and
Peter (a godson of the Duchess of Kent), and one daughter, Sarah (now
Mrs Elwes).

The funeral takes place at All Saints', Hovingham, Tuesday 1 June,
2004. A London Memorial Service will take place at a later date.
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The drama critic and writer Milton Shulman (husband of Drusilla
Beyfus)& father of the Marchioness of Normanby, died 21 May, 2004. He
was 90.
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Major-General Reginald Henry (Rex) Whitworth, CB, CBE, Chief of Staff,
Southern Command, 1968-70, and Bursar and Official Fellow, Exeter
College, Oxford, 1970-81, died 22 May, 2004. He was aged 87.

He was born 27 August, 1916, son of Aymer William Whitworth, by his
wife Alice Lucy Patience Hervey, scion of the Marquesses of Bristol.
He was awarded the Bronze Star, USA 1945; was appointed CBE in 1963,
and CB in 1969.

His publications included: "Field Marshal Earl Ligonier" (1958);
"Famous Regiments: the Grenadier Guards" (1974); "Gunner at Large"
(1988); "William Augustus, Duke of Cumberland" (1992).

He married twice; (i) in 1946, to June Rachel, only daughter of Sir
Bartle Edwards, CVO, MC, by his wife Daphne, daughter of Sir Cyril
Kendall Butler, KBE, by whom he had two sons Charles and Patrick, and
one daughter, Teresa. Mrs Whitworth died in 1994. He married (ii), in
1999, Victoria Mary Rose, daughter of Robert James Buxton, MB, BChir,
MRCS, LRCP, DOMS, scion of the Buxton Baronets, and widow of Major
David Faulkner, of the Irish Guards (a son of Patricia, Countess of
Dundee, and a cousin of Sarah Duchess of York).
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Nicholas Lamert Luard, publisisher and writer (owner with Peter Cook
of the satirical magazine *Private Eye), born 26 June, 1937, of
Huguenot stock, son of John McVean Luard (of the landed family Luard
formerly of Blyborough), by his wife, Susan Lamert (also of Huguenot
stock); married 1963, Elizabeth Baron, dau of Wing/Cdr Richard
Maitland Longmore, OBE (of that landed family -see 1952 Burke's LG),
one son and three daughters (inc one dau deceased), died 25 May, 2004,
aged 66.
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Unless I've missed it, you don't seem to have noted the death of Sir
Peter Thorne, KCVO, Serjeant at Arms to the House of Commons from 1976
to 1982 (having worked in the Serjeant at Arms' office since 1948),
married to a daughter of the 5th Earl of Limerick. Author, "The Royal
Mace in the House of Commons", 1990, which sounds an interesting work.
According to his Telegraph obituary, published 26 May, he died on
March 16.
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Unless I've missed it, you don't seem to have noted the death of Sir
Peter Thorne, KCVO, Serjeant at Arms to the House of Commons from 1976
to 1982 (having worked in the Serjeant at Arms' office since 1948),
married to a daughter of the 5th Earl of Limerick. Author, "The Royal
Mace in the House of Commons", 1990, which sounds an interesting work.
According to his Telegraph obituary, published 26 May, he died on
March 16.
I reported his death back in March, Don.

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Unless I've missed it, you don't seem to have noted the death of Sir
Peter Thorne, KCVO, Serjeant at Arms to the House of Commons from 1976
to 1982 (having worked in the Serjeant at Arms' office since 1948),
married to a daughter of the 5th Earl of Limerick. Author, "The Royal
Mace in the House of Commons", 1990, which sounds an interesting work.
According to his Telegraph obituary, published 26 May, he died on
March 16.
I reported his death back in March, Don.
I should have thought that the Telegraph's delay might have given me
time to forget! Sorry.
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The Hon. David Hervey Erskine, DL, JP, who died 25 May, 2004, aged 79,
was a Justice of the Peace for Suffolk 1971-86, and a Deputy
Lieutenant for Suffolk from 1983.

He was born 5 November, 1924, 3rd son of John Francis Ashley, styled
Lord Erskine, GCSI, GCIE (who died 1953, himself a son of the 12th
Earl of Mar and (14th) Earl of Kellie), by his wife Lady Marjorie
Hervey, elder daughter of the 4th Marquess of Bristol.

He was educated at Eton and Trinity College, Cambridge.

Career: served in Italy and Palestine, 1944-47 (Italy Star); Called to
the Bar at the Inner Temple, 1950; late Captain the Scots Guards; a
County Councillor for West Suffolk, 1969-74 and for Suffolk, 1974-85.
He was a member of Brook's Club.

Mr. Erskine was twice married, firstly, 5 December, 1953, to Jean
Violet (d. 1983), daughter of Lieutenant-Colonel Archibald Vivian
Campbell Douglas of Mains, by whom he had three daughters, Janet,
Catherine and Molly. He married secondly, 3 May, 1985, Caroline Mary,
widow of the 2nd Viscount Chandos (who died in 1980), and daughter of
the Rt Hon Sir Alan Lascelles, GCVO, KCB, CMG, MC (who d. 1981),
one-time Private Secretary to King George VI and Queen Elizabeth II,
and scion of the Earls of Harewood.

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Mr. Erskine was twice married, firstly, 5 December, 1953, to Jean
Violet (d. 1983), daughter of Lieutenant-Colonel Archibald Vivian
Campbell Douglas of Mains, by whom he had three daughters, Janet,
Catherine and Molly.
This is interesting for me, because the town I grew up in has strong links
to the Douglas of Mains family, although I'm not sure of the exact nature of
the connection. I lived on a street called Vivian Avenue, located within an
area known as the Mains Estate. Other nearby streets are Campbell Avenue,
Southmains Road and Nethermains Drive. Also, the school I attended is known
as Douglas Academy. There used to be a 'big house' at the edge of the school
grounds, a picture of which was displayed in the main reception area, but it
has long since been demolished.

Gillian
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The Marchioness of Tweeddale, who died at home on the Isle of Mull,
after a short illness, 26 May, 2004, was the second wife, and widow,
of the 12th Marquess of Tweeddale, GC.

She was the former Nella Doreen Dutton -known as Dee -the daughter of
M. Dutton, and was a Sgt in the W.R.A.F. prior to her marriage to Lord
Tweeddale, which took place 14 January, 1959.

Her husband had distinguished himself during the 1939-45 war as a
Royal Naval Reserve cadet. He won the Albert Medal in 1941 and Lloyd
War Medal for bravery at sea and theRoyal Life Saving Medal. His
Albert Medal converted to a George Cross, was won serving in the
merchantman Eurylochus, sunk in the Atlantic in 1941. He was then
Cadet David Hay, aged 19.

Her husband succeeded his uncle as 12th Marquess in 1967, having
settled in Scotland as a farmer and lobster fisherman.

Lord Tweeddale listed among his recreations in Who's Who: "striving to
exist after dynamic socialism".

Lady Tweeddale presented her husband with twin boys in October, 1959
(her husband's first wife had also been brought to bed of twin sons in
1947).

She and her husband lived on a 4,000 acre Isle of Mull estate. Her
husband took the precaution of never walking alone because of an
uncommon allergy to bee or wasp stings known as anaphilactic shock.

The Marquess collapsed in a coma after succumbing to a wasp sting in
1968. Fortuntately, a doctor with an antidote had rented a cottage
close by.

Dee Tweeddale was widowed in January, 1979. She is survived by two
sons, Lord Andrew and Lord Hamish Hay.

The funeral service is at Creich Church, Fionnphort, Isle of Mull,
Saturday 29 May, 2004.

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Fiona, Lady Rasch, who died 27 May, 2004, aged 81, was the second
wife, and widow, of Sir Richard (Dickie)Guy Carne Rasch, 3rd Baronet
(1918-96).

She was Fiona Mary, former wife of Humphrey John Rodham Balliol
Salmon, and daughter of Robert Douglas Shaw, of St Leonards-on-Sea,
Sussex, and married Sir Richard in 1961. No issue of the marriage.

Anthony Henry Heber Villiers, who died 28 May, 2004, was a scion
paternally of the Earls of Clarendon, and descended matermally from
the Dukes of Northumberland.

He was born in 1921, son of Capt Gerald Berkeley Villiers (1885-1959),
by his wife Rachel Joan Heber Percy, of the Dukes of Northumerland. He
served as a Captain in the Grenadier Guards, 1939-45, & married in
1948, Rosemary Elizabeth, dau of Major (William) Bertram Bell, 12th
Lancers (descended from the Barons Barrymore), by whom he had two
sons, Valentine and Charles (dec), and two daughters, Henrietta and
Emma (dec).

Ronald Slingsby Campbell Carr-Ellison, who died 28 May, 2004, aged 74,
was b. 23 July, 1929, the third son of John Campbell Carr-Ellison
(1897-1956), of Dunstan Hill and Hebburn Hall, Co Durham, and Hedgeley
Hall, Northumberland, head of that landed family, by his first wife,
Daphne Hermione Indica Cradock.

He was a 2nd Lieutenant in the Royal Northumberland Fusiliers,
1948-50; and a Member of the London Stock Exchange. He was, I think,
unmarried.

His elder brother is Sir Ralph Carr-Ellison, KCVO, former Lord
Lieutenant of Tyne & Wear.

The Hon. David Hervey Erskine, DL, JP, who died 25 May, 2004, aged 79,
was a Justice of the Peace for Suffolk 1971-86, and a Deputy
Lieutenant for Suffolk from 1983.

He was born 5 November, 1924, 3rd son of John Francis Ashley, styled
Lord Erskine, GCSI, GCIE (who died 1953, himself a son of the 12th
Earl of Mar and (14th) Earl of Kellie), by his wife Lady Marjorie
Hervey, elder daughter of the 4th Marquess of Bristol.

He was educated at Eton and Trinity College, Cambridge.

Career: served in Italy and Palestine, 1944-47 (Italy Star); Called to
the Bar at the Inner Temple, 1950; late Captain the Scots Guards; a
County Councillor for West Suffolk, 1969-74 and for Suffolk, 1974-85.
He was a member of Brook's Club.

Mr. Erskine was twice married, firstly, 5 December, 1953, to Jean
Violet (d. 1983), daughter of Lieutenant-Colonel Archibald Vivian
Campbell Douglas of Mains, by whom he had three daughters, Janet,
Catherine and Molly. He married secondly, 3 May, 1985, Caroline Mary,
widow of the 2nd Viscount Chandos (who died in 1980), and daughter of
the Rt Hon Sir Alan Lascelles, GCVO, KCB, CMG, MC (who d. 1981),
one-time Private Secretary to King George VI and Queen Elizabeth II,
and scion of the Earls of Harewood.
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Frances Dawn Daniel, MB, BS, (nee Bosanquet), pathologist and GP,
lately Captain in the R.A.M.C., who was b. 24 December, 1916, wife of
-----Daniel; died 25 May, 2004, aged 87. She leaves issue, unknown to
me.

Mrs Daniel was the second daughter of Geoffrey Courthorpe Bosanquet
(b. 1876), who married in 1914, Midlred Eleanor, daughter of the Rev.
Hugh Barrington Simeon, scion of the Simeon Baronets.
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The Hon. Mark Julian Petre (b. 1969), second son of the 18th Baron
Petre, and Baroness Petre, died 22 May, 2004.

Mark's engagement to Sarah Lindsay Carlisle Harris was announced, 15
January, 2002. I don't have details of a marriage, if any.
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2004-06-12 20:20:34 UTC
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The Hon. Mark Julian Petre (b. 1969), second son of the 18th Baron
Petre, and Baroness Petre, died 22 May, 2004.
Mark's engagement to Sarah Lindsay Carlisle Harris was announced, 15
January, 2002. I don't have details of a marriage, if any.
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Found an artcle about it

http://www.thisisessex.co.uk/essex/archive/2004/05/28/news59.D_28_05_2004_rn_75_h_IngatestonePetre_son_tragedZM.html

quite mysterious


Mel
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Found an artcle about it
http://www.thisisessex.co.uk/essex/archive/2004/05/28/news59.D_28_05_2004_rn_75_h_IngatestonePetre_son_tragedZM.html
quite mysterious
Mel
Thanks for that!

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Patrick Theobald Tower Butler was born on January 27 1917 into an
Anglo-Norman Irish family descended from the 1st Lord of Dunboyne, who
received a writ of summons to the Irish Parliament in 1324. Succeeding
generations were periodically summoned to Parliament until the 11th
baron was granted letters patent in 1541.
Didn't the 15th Baron (and 25th Lord) Dunboyne die without male heirs,
but with female issue by his wife Marion Clifford, a descendant
maternally of the 1st Earl of Hardwicke? If so, shouldn't the
lordship (as a title created by writ of summons) have passed to his
daughter or fallen abeyant?

According to Cracroft's Peerage, Edmond Butler, Lord Dunboyne who was
the eldest son of the 9th Lord Dunboyne, and thus presumably the 10th
Lord Dunboyne was the first to be granted letters of patent in 1641.
Interesting that there have been several intermarriages between this
branch, and the Butler earls of Ormonde and many many other Butler
branches. No wonder that the late peer (whose maternal grandmother
was also a Butler) was interested in the Butler family history and the
genealogy of all branches!

Finally, I notice that the earls of Verulam are descended from the 1st
Viscount Grimston who was also created Baron Dunboyne (Ireland,
letters patent 29 May 1719). Now why is this, given that a Baron
Dunboyne already existed in the Irish peerage?

Shinjinee
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The Lady Deedes, wife of the former Cabinet Minister and editor of the
Daily Telegraph, Lord Deedes, died from cancer, 5 May, 2004. She was
aged 88.
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She married the then Major William (Bill) Deedes, of the KRRC, in
1942.
Is the family related to the present Lady Fitzwalter, wife of the 21st
Baron, who was born Margaret Melesina Deedes and is listed in my
edition of Cracroft's Peerage as the 3rd dau. of Herbert William
Deedes, of Galt, Hythe, Kent, and formerly of Sandling Castle and of
Saltwood Castle, Kent. A website also described her as a distant
cousin of her husband.

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The Lady Deedes, wife of the former Cabinet Minister and editor of the
Daily Telegraph, Lord Deedes, died from cancer, 5 May, 2004. She was
aged 88.
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She married the then Major William (Bill) Deedes, of the KRRC, in
1942.
Is the family related to the present Lady Fitzwalter, wife of the 21st
Baron, who was born Margaret Melesina Deedes and is listed in my
edition of Cracroft's Peerage as the 3rd dau. of Herbert William
Deedes, of Galt, Hythe, Kent, and formerly of Sandling Castle and of
Saltwood Castle, Kent. A website also described her as a distant
cousin of her husband.
Shinjinee
They are all the same Landed Gentry family, Shinjinee; alas missing from my volumes.

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James Dempster
2004-05-11 05:47:21 UTC
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Post by Michael Rhodes
The Lady Deedes, wife of the former Cabinet Minister and editor of the
Daily Telegraph, Lord Deedes, died from cancer, 5 May, 2004. She was
aged 88.
[snip]
Post by Michael Rhodes
She married the then Major William (Bill) Deedes, of the KRRC, in
1942.
Is the family related to the present Lady Fitzwalter, wife of the 21st
Baron, who was born Margaret Melesina Deedes and is listed in my
edition of Cracroft's Peerage as the 3rd dau. of Herbert William
Deedes, of Galt, Hythe, Kent, and formerly of Sandling Castle and of
Saltwood Castle, Kent. A website also described her as a distant
cousin of her husband.
Shinjinee
They are all the same Landed Gentry family, Shinjinee; alas missing from my volumes.
Found these days in the Peerage. Lady Fitzwalter is the sister of Lord
Deedes. The cousinship comes from the descent of both the Deedes and
the Fitzwalters from Sir Brook Bridges 3rd Bt.

William Deedes (1761-1834) married Sophia Bridges, 2nd daughter of Sir
Brook in 1791. Lord Deedes, Lady Fitzwalter and Lord Fitzwalter are
all great-great-great grandchildren of Sir Brooke.

Sir Brooke Bridges (1733-1791) = Fanny Fowler (Fitzwalter co-heiress)
dau
Sophia Bridges = William Deedes
son
William Deedes (1796-1862) = Emily Taylor
son
Herbert George Deedes (1836-1891) = Rose Barrow
son
Herbert William Deedes (1881-1966) = Melesina Trench
son and daughter
William Francis, Lord Deedes b 1913
Margaret Melesina, Lady Fitzwalter b 1923

Sir Brooke Bridges (1733-1791) = Fanny Fowler (Fitzwalter co-heiress)
son
Sir Brooke Bridges (1767-1829) = Eleanor Foote
dau
Eleanor Bridges (1805-1892) = Rev Henry Plumptre
son
John Bridges Plumptre (1832-1888) = Elizabeth Wright
son
George Plumptre (1869-1934) = Mary Plumptre
son
Brook Plumptre b 1914 21st Baron Fitzwalter

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