Francesco Maria Mariano duke of Otranto and Lipari

[chevalier1973]

Who is this gentleman? His name is Francesco Maria Mariano, duke of
Otranto and Lipari.
He seems a great italian noble and a very experienced person.
These are his titles:
- king of arms of the Royal Balearic House of Paternò
- king of arms of the Imperial Byzantine House of Constantinople
- king of arms of the Carolingian and Bernician Royal House
- king of arms of the Royal House of the Sekal Dynasty of Somalia
- grand cross of the Royal Military Order of Christ (Royal House of
Braganza)
- most serene grand master of the Nobiliary and Military Order of the
most Holy Trinity
- honorary grand master of the Temple Order of Jerusalem
- grand master of the order of Chateneuf.
I read the duke of Otranto was created by Napoleon I in 1803: the first
duke of Otranto was the minister Fouché. His descendant, Charles (born
in 1986) is french citizen and is the VIII duke.
Who conferred these titles to the Mariano family? The Savoia kings? The
Bourbon kings? The Habsburg of Tuscany? The Popes?

[Hovite]

How can anyone be "king of arms of the Imperial Byzantine House of
Constantinople"?

[c***@webtv.net]

Hovite wrote:"How can anyone be "king of arms of the Imperial Byzantine
House of Constantinople"?"
-----------------------------------
It's very simple. You send $20 to the Universal Life Church in Modesto,
California, and ask them to send you a certificate stating that you are
such with the clerical title of Archimandrite, of which few western
christians have a clue as to the meaning. Then you take it to the state
capital to get it apostilled. Then you take it to the turkish consulate
and get it translated and the translation certified and if possible
apostilled. So then you have a nice piece of paper certified by a "an
official of the turkish government" saying that you are the the "King of
Arms of the Imperial Byzantine House of Constantinople". Then you set up
a website where americans and germans can get themselves recognized as
Knights and counts for a fee ranging upwards of $500 and advertise in
the International Herald Tribune and other such seemingly respectable
newsmedia.


Carsten

[chevalier1973]

Firstly: king of arms of the Carolingian and Bernician Royal House. Do
you know this dynasty?
Is this family directly related to Charles the Great and to the
Bernicia kings? Who is the present head of house?
Secondly: what is the name of the head of the aforesaid Byzantine House?

[Hovite]

No one is the head of any of these houses because they do not exist and
have not existed for several centuries.

[Frank R.A.J. Maloney]

Post by chevalier1973
Firstly: king of arms of the Carolingian and Bernician Royal House. Do
you know this dynasty?
Is this family directly related to Charles the Great and to the
Bernicia kings? Who is the present head of house?
Secondly: what is the name of the head of the aforesaid Byzantine House?

These are fantasies or pretensions.

Bernicia was a kingdom in northern England and southern Scotland, originally
British, then Anglian. It ceased to exist in 634 when it became part of
Northumbria.

Carolingian refers to the dynasty the most famous member of which was
Charlemagne. The last Carolingian king of West Francia (France) died in 987.
Carolingian rulers in Middle Francia (Lorraine, Provence, Lombardy) in 875.
In East Francia (Germany and the Holy Roman Empire) in 911.

The Eastern Roman or Byzantine Empire was finally conquered by the Ottoman
Turks in 1453. The last Byzantine emperor, Constantine XI Paleologus,
disappeared in the midst of the final battle and according to some accounts
his body never identified.

There cannot be dynasties extant for any of these polities for various and
obvious reasons and therefore no one can legimately claim any titles or
offices associated with them.

[i***@aim.com]

Is Guy Stair Sainty able to inform about these orders?
- Order of the Christ: is it possible that this order was awarded by
dom Duarte?
- Order of the Holy Trinity
- Order of the Temple of Jerusalem
- Order of Chateneuf
What is the mind of SMOM about the titles of mr. Mariano? Who ennobled
his family?
Only Sainty can reply.

[Guy Stair Sainty]

Post by i***@aim.com
Is Guy Stair Sainty able to inform about these orders?
- Order of the Christ: is it possible that this order was awarded by
dom Duarte?
- Order of the Holy Trinity
- Order of the Temple of Jerusalem
- Order of Chateneuf
What is the mind of SMOM about the titles of mr. Mariano? Who ennobled
his family?
Only Sainty can reply.

If you wish to learn more about these illustrious Orders, buy "sainty's"
book.

If you want the SMOM view on these titles, ask the Order (although I doubt
you will get a reply, as this gentleman is not a member of the SMOM).

[Guy Stair Sainty]

In article <***@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
chevalier1973 says...

Post by chevalier1973
Who is this gentleman? His name is Francesco Maria Mariano, duke of
Otranto and Lipari.
He seems a great italian noble and a very experienced person.
- king of arms of the Royal Balearic House of Patern=F2
- king of arms of the Imperial Byzantine House of Constantinople
- king of arms of the Carolingian and Bernician Royal House
- king of arms of the Royal House of the Sekal Dynasty of Somalia
- grand cross of the Royal Military Order of Christ (Royal House of
Braganza)
- most serene grand master of the Nobiliary and Military Order of the
most Holy Trinity
- honorary grand master of the Temple Order of Jerusalem
- grand master of the order of Chateneuf.
I read the duke of Otranto was created by Napoleon I in 1803: the first
duke of Otranto was the minister Fouch=E9. His descendant, Charles (born
in 1986) is french citizen and is the VIII duke.
Who conferred these titles to the Mariano family? The Savoia kings? The
Bourbon kings? The Habsburg of Tuscany? The Popes?

These titles say it all; you may also inquire as the role he was allegedly
playing until recently in the affairs of the Order of Danilo I of Montenegro,

[chevalier1973]

Excellency,
what you write is serious: have you informations about this man? Have
you evidences about his affairs with the Order of Danilo I of
Montenegro? I am astonished...

[i***@aim.com]

You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

[Guy Stair Sainty]

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

I suggest you do some research in italy. In the meanwhile, I cannot help
wondering what your real name is and if you have a very close relation in
Lisbon?

[i***@aim.com]

Lisbon: what has that got to do with my question?

My name is Modest Lulov and I live in London.
I think that it is impossible that this man received the Christ Order
from dom Duarte, simply as dom Duarte does not award it.

[chevalier1973]

This is the web-site of mr. Mariano, who leads the "Consiglio Araldico
Italiano - Istituto Marchese Vitorio Spreti":
http://www.consiglioaraldico.com/
The more interesting link is
http://www.consiglioaraldico.com/ita/3/index.php

[a***@email.it]

Chevalier or ... cavaliere?
It seems that you well know the italian heraldry gossip...

[W***@gmail.com]

Post by i***@aim.com
Lisbon: what has that got to do with my question?
My name is Modest Lulov and I live in London.

You may live in London but you're sending your messages from Italy.

[a***@email.it]

Post by Guy Stair Sainty

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

I suggest you do some research in italy. In the meanwhile, I cannot help
wondering what your real name is and if you have a very close relation in
Lisbon?
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm

I am a member - in the lieutenant rank - of the Order of Danilo I of
Montenegro and I write from Italy. That Saintys writes is completely
false and groundless, without evidences.
He is influenced by his italian friends, who are jealous because the
Order of Danilo I slipped from their controls. Saintys is an
authoritative researcher: he must disregard the italian gossips. I
received the Order of Danilo I in Rome, during the ceremony of 31.1.06,
when the king of Montenegro met the SMOM Grand Master: I am sure that,
if the Order of Danilo has established such links or has such links,
the Grand Master would have refused and rejected the visit. My
membership was recommended to the order by persons very close to the
Savoia royal family. I paid only the box with the miniature and the
rosette. In the ceremonies of Rome (31.1-1.2.06) I never saw this
Mariano.

[Guy Stair Sainty]

Post by a***@email.it

Post by Guy Stair Sainty

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

I suggest you do some research in italy. In the meanwhile, I cannot help
wondering what your real name is and if you have a very close relation in
Lisbon?
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm

I am a member - in the lieutenant rank - of the Order of Danilo I of
Montenegro and I write from Italy. That Saintys writes is completely
false and groundless, without evidences.
He is influenced by his italian friends, who are jealous because the
Order of Danilo I slipped from their controls. Saintys is an
authoritative researcher: he must disregard the italian gossips. I
received the Order of Danilo I in Rome, during the ceremony of 31.1.06,
when the king of Montenegro met the SMOM Grand Master: I am sure that,
if the Order of Danilo has established such links or has such links,
the Grand Master would have refused and rejected the visit. My
membership was recommended to the order by persons very close to the
Savoia royal family. I paid only the box with the miniature and the
rosette. In the ceremonies of Rome (31.1-1.2.06) I never saw this
Mariano.

I can only repeat the links I have already posted, see:

Here are the links proving the connection of this soi-disant duke with
the Order of Danilo I:

http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/ej-blog_home.cfm?Id=57

http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Lazio/6702/6702.cfm

http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Veneto/5001/5001.cfm

[chevalier1973]

Post by Guy Stair Sainty

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

I suggest you do some research in italy. In the meanwhile, I cannot help
wondering what your real name is and if you have a very close relation in
Lisbon?
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm

It seems these titles are conferred by the Amoroso Dynasty and by the
Cilento-Altavilla.
I suggest to read the page about the orders of the well-known great and
interesting site of Sainty. Unfortunately, in the section due to the
Royalty matter, he does not treat the claims of the aforesaid families.
The Italian Magistrature recognized and legalized these dynasties: that
means the titles are valid and effective.
As regards the order of Christ, this was surely conferred by dom
Rosario Poidimani or by dona Maria Pia: as far as I know, dom Duarte
does not confer this order.
Mr. Mariano is also the grand master of the Order of the Gold Plate
www.ordinepiattodoro.it

[Guy Stair Sainty]

In article <***@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
chevalier1973 says...

Post by chevalier1973

Post by Guy Stair Sainty

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

I suggest you do some research in italy. In the meanwhile, I cannot help
wondering what your real name is and if you have a very close relation in
Lisbon?
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm

It seems these titles are conferred by the Amoroso Dynasty and by the
Cilento-Altavilla.
I suggest to read the page about the orders of the well-known great and
interesting site of Sainty. Unfortunately, in the section due to the
Royalty matter, he does not treat the claims of the aforesaid families.
The Italian Magistrature recognized and legalized these dynasties: that
means the titles are valid and effective.

It means nothing of the sort and the Italoian magistrature has *NOT*
recognized and legalised these so called dynasties.

Post by chevalier1973
As regards the order of Christ, this was surely conferred by dom
Rosario Poidimani or by dona Maria Pia: as far as I know, dom Duarte
does not confer this order.
Mr. Mariano is also the grand master of the Order of the Gold Plate
www.ordinepiattodoro.it

and also involved with Danilo I:

Here are the links proving the connection of this soi-disant duke with
the Order of Danilo I:

http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/ej-blog_home.cfm?Id=57

http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Lazio/6702/6702.cfm

http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Veneto/5001/5001.cfm

[Guy Stair Sainty]

Post by Guy Stair Sainty
chevalier1973 says...

Post by chevalier1973

Post by Guy Stair Sainty

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

I suggest you do some research in italy. In the meanwhile, I cannot help
wondering what your real name is and if you have a very close relation in
Lisbon?
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm

It seems these titles are conferred by the Amoroso Dynasty and by the
Cilento-Altavilla.
I suggest to read the page about the orders of the well-known great and
interesting site of Sainty. Unfortunately, in the section due to the
Royalty matter, he does not treat the claims of the aforesaid families.
The Italian Magistrature recognized and legalized these dynasties: that
means the titles are valid and effective.

It means nothing of the sort and the Italoian magistrature has *NOT*
recognized and legalised these so called dynasties.

Post by chevalier1973
As regards the order of Christ, this was surely conferred by dom
Rosario Poidimani or by dona Maria Pia: as far as I know, dom Duarte
does not confer this order.
Mr. Mariano is also the grand master of the Order of the Gold Plate
www.ordinepiattodoro.it

Here are the links proving the connection of this soi-disant duke with
http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/ej-blog_home.cfm?Id=57
http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Lazio/6702/6702.cfm
http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Veneto/5001/5001.cfm

And at this link you will find a photograph of the award of the Order of
Danilo I in which Mr Mariano appears - this image was supplied to the
editors of Burke's World Orders of Knighthood and Merit and will appear
therein as an illustration to the article on the Order.

It has the title: "Investitura del Presidente della Repubblica del Montenegro:
oltre al Gran Cancelliere e al Principe Nicola II si può scorgere anche il Duca
Mariano"

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[chevalier1973]

Post by Guy Stair Sainty
chevalier1973 says...

Post by chevalier1973

Post by Guy Stair Sainty

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

I suggest you do some research in italy. In the meanwhile, I cannot help
wondering what your real name is and if you have a very close relation in
Lisbon?
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm

It seems these titles are conferred by the Amoroso Dynasty and by the
Cilento-Altavilla.
I suggest to read the page about the orders of the well-known great and
interesting site of Sainty. Unfortunately, in the section due to the
Royalty matter, he does not treat the claims of the aforesaid families.
The Italian Magistrature recognized and legalized these dynasties: that
means the titles are valid and effective.

It means nothing of the sort and the Italoian magistrature has *NOT*
recognized and legalised these so called dynasties.

Post by chevalier1973
As regards the order of Christ, this was surely conferred by dom
Rosario Poidimani or by dona Maria Pia: as far as I know, dom Duarte
does not confer this order.
Mr. Mariano is also the grand master of the Order of the Gold Plate
www.ordinepiattodoro.it

Here are the links proving the connection of this soi-disant duke with
http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/ej-blog_home.cfm?Id=57
http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Lazio/6702/6702.cfm
http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Veneto/5001/5001.cfm
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm

I did not written that you are wrong: I simply stressed that - reading
http://www.consiglioaraldico.com/ita/3/index.php - it seems that the
italian justice recognizes the titles and the fons honorum of these
peoples:
- Antonio de Curtis, whose nickname was Totò (very popular italian
comic actor)
- Marziano Lavarello
- Emmanuel Paternò
- Amoroso of Aragona
- Cilento of Hauteville
It is difficult to accept it, but dura lex sed lex.
Please read the long discussion of mr. Mariano and please draw a
conclusion.
If you think that I charged you with lie, I had no intention of doing
it: I am sorry and excuse me.

[Guy Stair Sainty]

In article <***@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
chevalier1973 says...

Post by chevalier1973
I did not written that you are wrong: I simply stressed that - reading
http://www.consiglioaraldico.com/ita/3/index.php - it seems that the
italian justice recognizes the titles and the fons honorum of these
- Antonio de Curtis, whose nickname was Tot=F2 (very popular italian
comic actor)
- Marziano Lavarello
- Emmanuel Patern=F2
- Amoroso of Aragona
- Cilento of Hauteville
It is difficult to accept it, but dura lex sed lex.
Please read the long discussion of mr. Mariano and please draw a
conclusion.
If you think that I charged you with lie, I had no intention of doing
it: I am sorry and excuse me.

On the contrary; the Italian Court of Cassation has determined that these
judgmenents do not in any way confer recongition of the claims of these
individuals under Italian law. These judgements are the result of a uniquely
Italian legal device that allows a plaintiff's claim to be entered in
the judgement when the defendant withdraws his action; it is absolutely
certain that the Italian republic does not in any way recognize the princely
pretensions of these persons and their pruported conferral of chivalric
distinctions is in breach of the Italian criminal code.

[chevalier1973]

This is a complete reply: thank you very much.

[Coultaro71]

Post by chevalier1973

Post by Guy Stair Sainty

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

I suggest you do some research in italy. In the meanwhile, I cannot help
wondering what your real name is and if you have a very close relation in
Lisbon?
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm

It seems these titles are conferred by the Amoroso Dynasty and by the
Cilento-Altavilla.
I suggest to read the page about the orders of the well-known great and
interesting site of Sainty. Unfortunately, in the section due to the
Royalty matter, he does not treat the claims of the aforesaid families.
The Italian Magistrature recognized and legalized these dynasties: that
means the titles are valid and effective.
As regards the order of Christ, this was surely conferred by dom
Rosario Poidimani or by dona Maria Pia: as far as I know, dom Duarte
does not confer this order.
Mr. Mariano is also the grand master of the Order of the Gold Plate
www.ordinepiattodoro.it

I know dom Rosario Poidimani or dona Maria Pia never conferred the
order of Crist to this Mr. Francesco Maria Mariano.

[chevalier1973]

In many books, mr. Mariano states "knight grand cross of the supreme
order of Christ". Who awarded this order, according that he wrote?
The Pope? The president of the Portugal Republic?

Post by Coultaro71

Post by chevalier1973

Post by Guy Stair Sainty

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

I suggest you do some research in italy. In the meanwhile, I cannot help
wondering what your real name is and if you have a very close relation in
Lisbon?
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm

It seems these titles are conferred by the Amoroso Dynasty and by the
Cilento-Altavilla.
I suggest to read the page about the orders of the well-known great and
interesting site of Sainty. Unfortunately, in the section due to the
Royalty matter, he does not treat the claims of the aforesaid families.
The Italian Magistrature recognized and legalized these dynasties: that
means the titles are valid and effective.
As regards the order of Christ, this was surely conferred by dom
Rosario Poidimani or by dona Maria Pia: as far as I know, dom Duarte
does not confer this order.
Mr. Mariano is also the grand master of the Order of the Gold Plate
www.ordinepiattodoro.it

I know dom Rosario Poidimani or dona Maria Pia never conferred the
order of Crist to this Mr. Francesco Maria Mariano.

[Guy Stair Sainty]

In article <***@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
chevalier1973 says...

Post by chevalier1973
In many books, mr. Mariano states "knight grand cross of the supreme
order of Christ". Who awarded this order, according that he wrote?
The Pope? The president of the Portugal Republic?

Only the Pope gives the "Supreme Order" but in one class; the Portuguese
republic also gives it in several classes, but this person has not received it.

[Guy Stair Sainty]

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

You accuse me of lying !!!

Here are the links proving the connection of this soi-disant duke with
the Order of Danilo I:

http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/ej-blog_home.cfm?Id=57

http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Lazio/6702/6702.cfm

http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Veneto/5001/5001.cfm

I wouldolike you to immediately withdraw your accusation that I am reporting
soemthing that is not true. Immediatwely.

[chevalier1973]

Post by Guy Stair Sainty

Post by i***@aim.com
You are wrong, this is a false news.
I saw the web-site of the Order of Danilo I but there is no reference
of a presence of mr. Mariano in the high rolls of the order.
Therefore, that says Sainty is false: mr. Mariano never plaid in the
affairs of this order.

You accuse me of lying !!!
Here are the links proving the connection of this soi-disant duke with
http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/ej-blog_home.cfm?Id=57
http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Lazio/6702/6702.cfm
http://www.infow.net/commonfiles/Veneto/5001/5001.cfm
I wouldolike you to immediately withdraw your accusation that I am reporting
soemthing that is not true. Immediatwely.
--
Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm

I saw the website of mr. Mariano: "Consiglio Araldico Italiano -
Istituto Marchese Vittorio Spreti" (http://www.consiglioaraldico.com).

All in one, this Council consists of:
- the Institute of the Nobility Right
- the Nobility Council
- the Heraldic Court (sic)
- the Heraldic Council
- the Spreti Foundation
- the Genealogical Council
- the Etymological Council (sic)
- the Italian Historical Council
- the Knightood Council
All in Padova, same address.

Does exist in Italy an "Heraldic Court"? What this means?

[m***@btinternet.com]

Post by chevalier1973
I saw the website of mr. Mariano: "Consiglio Araldico Italiano -
Istituto Marchese Vittorio Spreti" (http://www.consiglioaraldico.com).
- the Institute of the Nobility Right
- the Nobility Council
- the Heraldic Court (sic)
- the Heraldic Council
- the Spreti Foundation
- the Genealogical Council
- the Etymological Council (sic)
- the Italian Historical Council
- the Knightood Council
All in Padova, same address.
Does exist in Italy an "Heraldic Court"? What this means?

Folie a dix?

[chevalier1973]

Post by m***@btinternet.com

Post by chevalier1973
I saw the website of mr. Mariano: "Consiglio Araldico Italiano -
Istituto Marchese Vittorio Spreti" (http://www.consiglioaraldico.com).
- the Institute of the Nobility Right
- the Nobility Council
- the Heraldic Court (sic)
- the Heraldic Council
- the Spreti Foundation
- the Genealogical Council
- the Etymological Council (sic)
- the Italian Historical Council
- the Knightood Council
All in Padova, same address.
Does exist in Italy an "Heraldic Court"? What this means?

Folie a dix?

OF COURSE!

[chevalier1973]

I suggest to read this site: www.ordinepiattodoro.it

Post by chevalier1973

Post by m***@btinternet.com

Post by chevalier1973
I saw the website of mr. Mariano: "Consiglio Araldico Italiano -
Istituto Marchese Vittorio Spreti" (http://www.consiglioaraldico.com).
- the Institute of the Nobility Right
- the Nobility Council
- the Heraldic Court (sic)
- the Heraldic Council
- the Spreti Foundation
- the Genealogical Council
- the Etymological Council (sic)
- the Italian Historical Council
- the Knightood Council
All in Padova, same address.
Does exist in Italy an "Heraldic Court"? What this means?

Folie a dix?

OF COURSE!