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When Royals Marry Commoners ...
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David Amicus
2018-12-31 00:27:40 UTC
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When Royals marry commoners why aren't the Royals degraded and lose their rank rather than trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?
Louis Epstein
2019-01-01 22:01:06 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
When Royals marry commoners why aren't the Royals degraded and lose
their rank rather than trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?
Because otherwise royal rank would become extinct and we can't
have that.

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Graham
2019-01-02 22:40:26 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
When Royals marry commoners why aren't the Royals degraded and lose their rank rather than trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?
If the UK had insisted for the last 150 years that all spouses had to have four royal grandparents, then we would not have had

1. Queen Mary - grand-daughter of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countess_Claudine_Rh%C3%A9dey_von_Kis-Rh%C3%A9de
2. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother - none of her grandparents were royal - she and Princess Diana were both daughers of earls.
3. Prince Philip - grandson of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Louis_of_Battenberg
David Amicus
2019-01-03 03:38:10 UTC
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When Royals marry commoners why aren't the Royals degraded and lose their rank rather than trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?
If the UK had insisted for the last 150 years that all spouses had to have four royal grandparents, then we would not have had
1. Queen Mary - grand-daughter of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countess_Claudine_Rh%C3%A9dey_von_Kis-Rh%C3%A9de
2. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother - none of her grandparents were royal - she and Princess Diana were both daughers of earls.
3. Prince Philip - grandson of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Louis_of_Battenberg
Then who would have been monarch?
Louis Epstein
2019-01-03 15:18:42 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
When Royals marry commoners why aren't the Royals degraded and lose their rank rather than trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?
If the UK had insisted for the last 150 years that all spouses had to have four royal grandparents, then we would not have had
1. Queen Mary - grand-daughter of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countess_Claudine_Rh%C3%A9dey_von_Kis-Rh%C3%A9de
2. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother - none of her grandparents were royal - she and Princess Diana were both daughers of earls.
3. Prince Philip - grandson of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Louis_of_Battenberg
Then who would have been monarch?
I suppose Edward VII would have been succeeded by Olav V of Norway,
who would have combined the crowns on the death of Haakon VII,
but all his children married commoners so it would skip to Ernst
August of Hanover except by the time Olav died he had married a
commoner.

His only brother married an apparently dynastic countess whose
Austrian family descended from Italian rulers of Milan...their son would
perhaps be heir,as the mother died of a drug overdose and the father
committed suicide before King Olav died.
Ernst August's elder sister married a Count who is apparently a dynast of
the Dukes/Princes of Pless,their sons are titled Counts;
their younger sister married the Prince of Leiningen and their son is
recently married to a Prussian princess.

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
David Amicus
2019-01-03 22:55:28 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
When Royals marry commoners why aren't the Royals degraded and lose their rank rather than trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?
If the UK had insisted for the last 150 years that all spouses had to have four royal grandparents, then we would not have had
1. Queen Mary - grand-daughter of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countess_Claudine_Rh%C3%A9dey_von_Kis-Rh%C3%A9de
2. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother - none of her grandparents were royal - she and Princess Diana were both daughers of earls.
3. Prince Philip - grandson of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Louis_of_Battenberg
Then who would have been monarch?
I suppose Edward VII would have been succeeded by Olav V of Norway,
who would have combined the crowns on the death of Haakon VII,
but all his children married commoners so it would skip to Ernst
August of Hanover except by the time Olav died he had married a
commoner.
His only brother married an apparently dynastic countess whose
Austrian family descended from Italian rulers of Milan...their son would
perhaps be heir,as the mother died of a drug overdose and the father
committed suicide before King Olav died.
Ernst August's elder sister married a Count who is apparently a dynast of
the Dukes/Princes of Pless,their sons are titled Counts;
their younger sister married the Prince of Leiningen and their son is
recently married to a Prussian princess.
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Haven't all the Jacobite claimants over the centuries had equal marriages?
Louis Epstein
2019-01-04 17:16:00 UTC
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Post by David Amicus
When Royals marry commoners why aren't the Royals degraded and lose their rank rather than trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?
If the UK had insisted for the last 150 years that all spouses had to have four royal grandparents, then we would not have had
1. Queen Mary - grand-daughter of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countess_Claudine_Rh%C3%A9dey_von_Kis-Rh%C3%A9de
2. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother - none of her grandparents were royal - she and Princess Diana were both daughers of earls.
3. Prince Philip - grandson of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Louis_of_Battenberg
Then who would have been monarch?
I suppose Edward VII would have been succeeded by Olav V of Norway,
who would have combined the crowns on the death of Haakon VII,
but all his children married commoners so it would skip to Ernst
August of Hanover except by the time Olav died he had married a
commoner.
His only brother married an apparently dynastic countess whose
Austrian family descended from Italian rulers of Milan...their son would
perhaps be heir,as the mother died of a drug overdose and the father
committed suicide before King Olav died.
Ernst August's elder sister married a Count who is apparently a dynast of
the Dukes/Princes of Pless,their sons are titled Counts;
their younger sister married the Prince of Leiningen and their son is
recently married to a Prussian princess.
Haven't all the Jacobite claimants over the centuries had equal marriages?
I think so but Hanoverians appear to have some lines as well.
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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