Discussion:
A Ducal Legend Over-Credited?
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Louis Epstein
2021-09-13 08:23:00 UTC
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I have recently become aware that Wikipedia,
thepeerage.com (thanks to someone's letter),
and some genealogy sites have been saying that
the 12th Duke of Norfolk succeeded in 1815
only because a senior Quaker cousin Thomas Howard,
who died in 1824 leaving children,"renounced
succession".

I am not aware of any legal mechanism whatsoever
by which this could have had legal effect at the
time,so I am curious as to whether some family
legend by a Howard actually either clearly illegitimate
or not having a verifiable kinship to the Dukes has
been passed down to descendants who have told it
to the unduly credulous.

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Louis Epstein
2021-11-05 20:07:44 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
I have recently become aware that Wikipedia,
thepeerage.com (thanks to someone's letter),
and some genealogy sites have been saying that
the 12th Duke of Norfolk succeeded in 1815
only because a senior Quaker cousin Thomas Howard,
who died in 1824 leaving children,"renounced
succession".
I am not aware of any legal mechanism whatsoever
by which this could have had legal effect at the
time,so I am curious as to whether some family
legend by a Howard actually either clearly illegitimate
or not having a verifiable kinship to the Dukes has
been passed down to descendants who have told it
to the unduly credulous.
I have been trying to awaken others to the need to
quash this but have been receiving no response.
Post by Louis Epstein
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Louis Epstein
2021-12-27 16:33:50 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
I have recently become aware that Wikipedia,
thepeerage.com (thanks to someone's letter),
and some genealogy sites have been saying that
the 12th Duke of Norfolk succeeded in 1815
only because a senior Quaker cousin Thomas Howard,
who died in 1824 leaving children,"renounced
succession".
I am not aware of any legal mechanism whatsoever
by which this could have had legal effect at the
time,so I am curious as to whether some family
legend by a Howard actually either clearly illegitimate
or not having a verifiable kinship to the Dukes has
been passed down to descendants who have told it
to the unduly credulous.
I have been trying to awaken others to the need to
quash this but have been receiving no response.
(nor yet)
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Louis Epstein
2022-02-27 06:23:52 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
I have recently become aware that Wikipedia,
thepeerage.com (thanks to someone's letter),
and some genealogy sites have been saying that
the 12th Duke of Norfolk succeeded in 1815
only because a senior Quaker cousin Thomas Howard,
who died in 1824 leaving children,"renounced
succession".
I am not aware of any legal mechanism whatsoever
by which this could have had legal effect at the
time,so I am curious as to whether some family
legend by a Howard actually either clearly illegitimate
or not having a verifiable kinship to the Dukes has
been passed down to descendants who have told it
to the unduly credulous.
I have been trying to awaken others to the need to
quash this but have been receiving no response.
(nor yet)
I invisiblized the claim on Wikipedia on my recent
(temporary?) recovery of ability to edit.
(It was indeed temporary)
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Louis Epstein
2022-04-21 17:33:29 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
I have recently become aware that Wikipedia,
thepeerage.com (thanks to someone's letter),
and some genealogy sites have been saying that
the 12th Duke of Norfolk succeeded in 1815
only because a senior Quaker cousin Thomas Howard,
who died in 1824 leaving children,"renounced
succession".
I am not aware of any legal mechanism whatsoever
by which this could have had legal effect at the
time,so I am curious as to whether some family
legend by a Howard actually either clearly illegitimate
or not having a verifiable kinship to the Dukes has
been passed down to descendants who have told it
to the unduly credulous.
I have been trying to awaken others to the need to
quash this but have been receiving no response.
(nor yet)
[still none]
Post by Louis Epstein
I invisiblized the claim on Wikipedia on my recent
(temporary?) recovery of ability to edit.
(It was indeed temporary)
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Louis Epstein
2022-06-04 06:15:14 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
I have recently become aware that Wikipedia,
thepeerage.com (thanks to someone's letter),
and some genealogy sites have been saying that
the 12th Duke of Norfolk succeeded in 1815
only because a senior Quaker cousin Thomas Howard,
who died in 1824 leaving children,"renounced
succession".
I am not aware of any legal mechanism whatsoever
by which this could have had legal effect at the
time,so I am curious as to whether some family
legend by a Howard actually either clearly illegitimate
or not having a verifiable kinship to the Dukes has
been passed down to descendants who have told it
to the unduly credulous.
I have been trying to awaken others to the need to
quash this but have been receiving no response.
(nor yet)
[still none]
[not a word]
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
I invisiblized the claim on Wikipedia on my recent
(temporary?) recovery of ability to edit.
(It was indeed temporary)
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Louis Epstein
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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