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Eric Shaw
2003-11-13 00:40:37 UTC
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Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
Steven Lavallee
2003-11-14 00:32:14 UTC
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Post by Eric Shaw
Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
Maud and the count were divorced. I searched SSDI
under first name "Maud" and date of birth "30 April 1895."
There was one match-- a Maud C (as in Coster?) French,
resident of the state of New York, who died on
29 December 1987. This is probably the ex-countess.
Maud's grand-niece, Antonia von Salm-Hoogstraeten,
graduated from Brown University a few years ago.
Rick Hutto
2003-11-14 12:55:34 UTC
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Post by Eric Shaw
Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
Maud and the count were divorced. I searched SSDI
under first name "Maud" and date of birth "30 April 1895."
There was one match-- a Maud C (as in Coster?) French,
resident of the state of New York, who died on
29 December 1987. This is probably the ex-countess.
Maud's grand-niece, Antonia von Salm-Hoogstraeten,
graduated from Brown University a few years ago.
Maud Coster, b. NYC 30 Apr 1895, m. NYC 26 May 1915 Otto Viktor, Count
von Salm-Hoogstraetem, b. Trautenberg 25 Aug 1886, d. Rapallo 1941,
grandson of Konstantin, Prince zu Salm-Salm. They had a son and
daughter who were both born in NYC. Otto Viktor's brother, Ludwig,
Count von Salm-Hoogstraeten, b. Homburg 24 Feb 1885, d. Budapest 23
Jul 1944, m. NYC 8 Jan 1924 as his 2nd wife, Millicent Rogers, b. NYC
2 Feb 1902, d. Albuquerque, NM, 12 Jan 1953, dau. of Col. Henry
Huddleston Rogers and Mary Benjamin Rodgers and granddau. of H. H.
Rogers, Vice President of Standard Oil, who left an estate of almost
$50 million. They had a son, Peter, Count von Salm-Hoogstraeton, b.
NYC 27 Sep 1925. She later married Ronal Balcom. Count Ludwig had
earlier named as his fiancee' American Mrs. Grace Sands Montgomery
Coffin but that marriage did not take place. Millicent's maternal
grandmother, Jane Miller Seymour Benjamin, had a brother, Eugene Ford
Seymour, whose dau., Frances Ford Seymour, m. actor Henry Fonda (1905
– 1982).

Rick
Eric Shaw
2003-11-14 23:48:14 UTC
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Post by Eric Shaw
Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
Maud and the count were divorced. I searched SSDI
under first name "Maud" and date of birth "30 April 1895."
There was one match-- a Maud C (as in Coster?) French,
resident of the state of New York, who died on
29 December 1987. This is probably the ex-countess.
Maud's grand-niece, Antonia von Salm-Hoogstraeten,
graduated from Brown University a few years ago.
Thank you.

Yes, I see from a brief article I just came across that Maud was
married after her divroce, to Stuyvesant Leroy French.

Do you know if Otto and Maud's daughter ever married?
Post by Rick Hutto
Maud Coster, b. NYC 30 Apr 1895, m. NYC 26 May 1915 Otto Viktor, Count
von Salm-Hoogstraetem, b. Trautenberg 25 Aug 1886, d. Rapallo 1941,
grandson of Konstantin, Prince zu Salm-Salm. They had a son and
daughter who were both born in NYC. Otto Viktor's brother, Ludwig,
Count von Salm-Hoogstraeten, b. Homburg 24 Feb 1885, d. Budapest 23
Jul 1944, m. NYC 8 Jan 1924 as his 2nd wife, Millicent Rogers, b. NYC
2 Feb 1902, d. Albuquerque, NM, 12 Jan 1953, dau. of Col. Henry
Huddleston Rogers and Mary Benjamin Rodgers and granddau. of H. H.
Rogers, Vice President of Standard Oil, who left an estate of almost
$50 million. They had a son, Peter, Count von Salm-Hoogstraeton, b.
NYC 27 Sep 1925. She later married Ronal Balcom. Count Ludwig had
earlier named as his fiancee' American Mrs. Grace Sands Montgomery
Coffin but that marriage did not take place. Millicent's maternal
grandmother, Jane Miller Seymour Benjamin, had a brother, Eugene Ford
Seymour, whose dau., Frances Ford Seymour, m. actor Henry Fonda (1905
? 1982).
Rick
Thank you.

Did Count Peter von Salm-Hoogstraeten marry? Does he have descendants
living in the U.S.?
Steven Lavallee
2003-11-15 13:15:39 UTC
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Post by Eric Shaw
Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
Maud and the count were divorced. I searched SSDI
under first name "Maud" and date of birth "30 April 1895."
There was one match-- a Maud C (as in Coster?) French,
resident of the state of New York, who died on
29 December 1987. This is probably the ex-countess.
Maud's grand-niece, Antonia von Salm-Hoogstraeten,
graduated from Brown University a few years ago.
Thank you.
Yes, I see from a brief article I just came across that Maud was
married after her divroce, to Stuyvesant Leroy French.
Do you know if Otto and Maud's daughter ever married?
Luise (1917-1951) appears to have died unmarried according to
the Salm genealogies I have. Also I know of no marriage info for
her brother Alexander (1919-).
Post by Eric Shaw
Post by Rick Hutto
Maud Coster, b. NYC 30 Apr 1895, m. NYC 26 May 1915 Otto Viktor, Count
von Salm-Hoogstraetem, b. Trautenberg 25 Aug 1886, d. Rapallo 1941,
grandson of Konstantin, Prince zu Salm-Salm. They had a son and
daughter who were both born in NYC. Otto Viktor's brother, Ludwig,
Count von Salm-Hoogstraeten, b. Homburg 24 Feb 1885, d. Budapest 23
Jul 1944, m. NYC 8 Jan 1924 as his 2nd wife, Millicent Rogers, b. NYC
2 Feb 1902, d. Albuquerque, NM, 12 Jan 1953, dau. of Col. Henry
Huddleston Rogers and Mary Benjamin Rodgers and granddau. of H. H.
Rogers, Vice President of Standard Oil, who left an estate of almost
$50 million. They had a son, Peter, Count von Salm-Hoogstraeton, b.
NYC 27 Sep 1925. She later married Ronal Balcom. Count Ludwig had
earlier named as his fiancee' American Mrs. Grace Sands Montgomery
Coffin but that marriage did not take place. Millicent's maternal
grandmother, Jane Miller Seymour Benjamin, had a brother, Eugene Ford
Seymour, whose dau., Frances Ford Seymour, m. actor Henry Fonda (1905
? 1982).
Rick
Thank you.
Did Count Peter von Salm-Hoogstraeten marry? Does he have descendants
living in the U.S.?
In 1969, he married Wiltraud, Baroness von Fürstenberg (1940-).
They have at least two children, Antonia (1973-), whom I mentioned
above, and Ludwig (1979-).

Where was the article you saw about Maud's remarriage?
Did it mention the year of her divorce?

Steven
Eric Shaw
2003-11-16 01:02:50 UTC
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Post by Eric Shaw
Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
Maud and the count were divorced. I searched SSDI
under first name "Maud" and date of birth "30 April 1895."
There was one match-- a Maud C (as in Coster?) French,
resident of the state of New York, who died on
29 December 1987. This is probably the ex-countess.
Maud's grand-niece, Antonia von Salm-Hoogstraeten,
graduated from Brown University a few years ago.
Thank you.
Yes, I see from a brief article I just came across that Maud was
married after her divroce, to Stuyvesant Leroy French.
Do you know if Otto and Maud's daughter ever married?
Luise (1917-1951) appears to have died unmarried according to
the Salm genealogies I have. Also I know of no marriage info for
her brother Alexander (1919-).
Post by Eric Shaw
Post by Rick Hutto
Maud Coster, b. NYC 30 Apr 1895, m. NYC 26 May 1915 Otto Viktor, Count
von Salm-Hoogstraetem, b. Trautenberg 25 Aug 1886, d. Rapallo 1941,
grandson of Konstantin, Prince zu Salm-Salm. They had a son and
daughter who were both born in NYC. Otto Viktor's brother, Ludwig,
Count von Salm-Hoogstraeten, b. Homburg 24 Feb 1885, d. Budapest 23
Jul 1944, m. NYC 8 Jan 1924 as his 2nd wife, Millicent Rogers, b. NYC
2 Feb 1902, d. Albuquerque, NM, 12 Jan 1953, dau. of Col. Henry
Huddleston Rogers and Mary Benjamin Rodgers and granddau. of H. H.
Rogers, Vice President of Standard Oil, who left an estate of almost
$50 million. They had a son, Peter, Count von Salm-Hoogstraeton, b.
NYC 27 Sep 1925. She later married Ronal Balcom. Count Ludwig had
earlier named as his fiancee' American Mrs. Grace Sands Montgomery
Coffin but that marriage did not take place. Millicent's maternal
grandmother, Jane Miller Seymour Benjamin, had a brother, Eugene Ford
Seymour, whose dau., Frances Ford Seymour, m. actor Henry Fonda (1905
? 1982).
Rick
Thank you.
Did Count Peter von Salm-Hoogstraeten marry? Does he have descendants
living in the U.S.?
In 1969, he married Wiltraud, Baroness von Fürstenberg (1940-).
They have at least two children, Antonia (1973-), whom I mentioned
above, and Ludwig (1979-).
Where was the article you saw about Maud's remarriage?
Did it mention the year of her divorce?
Steven
The item originally appeared in the May, 1984 edition of Town &
Country Magazine. I unfortunately do not have access to the entire
acticle.
A portion of this article was reprinted in the book, The Best Familes:
The Town & Country Social Directory, 1846-1996. Pub. Abrams, 1996,
where I found it:

French, Mrs. Stuyvesant Leroy-Salm-Hope-(Maud Coster) "We don't live
in any kind of grandeur here, we don't want to," remarks Mrs.
Stuyvesant French, ninety year old grande dame of Tuxedo Park. "Tuxedo
is a very unpretentious place. Some people move here, and try to be
pretentious, but they don't last."

Sorry no mention of the year of their divorce. It would be interesting
to know who her second husband Mr. Hope was.
Rick Hutto
2003-11-16 22:18:25 UTC
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Post by Eric Shaw
Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
Maud and the count were divorced. I searched SSDI
under first name "Maud" and date of birth "30 April 1895."
There was one match-- a Maud C (as in Coster?) French,
resident of the state of New York, who died on
29 December 1987. This is probably the ex-countess.
Maud's grand-niece, Antonia von Salm-Hoogstraeten,
graduated from Brown University a few years ago.
Thank you.
Yes, I see from a brief article I just came across that Maud was
married after her divroce, to Stuyvesant Leroy French.
Do you know if Otto and Maud's daughter ever married?
Luise (1917-1951) appears to have died unmarried according to
the Salm genealogies I have. Also I know of no marriage info for
her brother Alexander (1919-).
Post by Eric Shaw
Post by Rick Hutto
Maud Coster, b. NYC 30 Apr 1895, m. NYC 26 May 1915 Otto Viktor, Count
von Salm-Hoogstraetem, b. Trautenberg 25 Aug 1886, d. Rapallo 1941,
grandson of Konstantin, Prince zu Salm-Salm. They had a son and
daughter who were both born in NYC. Otto Viktor's brother, Ludwig,
Count von Salm-Hoogstraeten, b. Homburg 24 Feb 1885, d. Budapest 23
Jul 1944, m. NYC 8 Jan 1924 as his 2nd wife, Millicent Rogers, b. NYC
2 Feb 1902, d. Albuquerque, NM, 12 Jan 1953, dau. of Col. Henry
Huddleston Rogers and Mary Benjamin Rodgers and granddau. of H. H.
Rogers, Vice President of Standard Oil, who left an estate of almost
$50 million. They had a son, Peter, Count von Salm-Hoogstraeton, b.
NYC 27 Sep 1925. She later married Ronal Balcom. Count Ludwig had
earlier named as his fiancee' American Mrs. Grace Sands Montgomery
Coffin but that marriage did not take place. Millicent's maternal
grandmother, Jane Miller Seymour Benjamin, had a brother, Eugene Ford
Seymour, whose dau., Frances Ford Seymour, m. actor Henry Fonda (1905
? 1982).
Rick
Thank you.
Did Count Peter von Salm-Hoogstraeten marry? Does he have descendants
living in the U.S.?
In 1969, he married Wiltraud, Baroness von Fürstenberg (1940-).
They have at least two children, Antonia (1973-), whom I mentioned
above, and Ludwig (1979-).
Where was the article you saw about Maud's remarriage?
Did it mention the year of her divorce?
Steven
The item originally appeared in the May, 1984 edition of Town &
Country Magazine. I unfortunately do not have access to the entire
acticle.
The Town & Country Social Directory, 1846-1996. Pub. Abrams, 1996,
French, Mrs. Stuyvesant Leroy-Salm-Hope-(Maud Coster) "We don't live
in any kind of grandeur here, we don't want to," remarks Mrs.
Stuyvesant French, ninety year old grande dame of Tuxedo Park. "Tuxedo
is a very unpretentious place. Some people move here, and try to be
pretentious, but they don't last."
Sorry no mention of the year of their divorce. It would be interesting
to know who her second husband Mr. Hope was.
In the 1954 Social Register, she is Mrs. John G. Hope living at 333 E.
68th St., NYC, with her son, H. Alex Salm.

Rick
Guy Stair Sainty
2003-11-17 14:39:46 UTC
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Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
This is the same Count Alexander, still living in Tuxedo park.

Guy Stair Sainty
www.chivalricorders.org/index3.htm
Eric Shaw
2003-11-17 20:46:13 UTC
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Post by Eric Shaw
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Post by Steven Lavallee
Post by Eric Shaw
Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
Maud and the count were divorced. I searched SSDI
under first name "Maud" and date of birth "30 April 1895."
There was one match-- a Maud C (as in Coster?) French,
resident of the state of New York, who died on
29 December 1987. This is probably the ex-countess.
Maud's grand-niece, Antonia von Salm-Hoogstraeten,
graduated from Brown University a few years ago.
Thank you.
Yes, I see from a brief article I just came across that Maud was
married after her divroce, to Stuyvesant Leroy French.
Do you know if Otto and Maud's daughter ever married?
Luise (1917-1951) appears to have died unmarried according to
the Salm genealogies I have. Also I know of no marriage info for
her brother Alexander (1919-).
Post by Eric Shaw
Post by Rick Hutto
Maud Coster, b. NYC 30 Apr 1895, m. NYC 26 May 1915 Otto Viktor, Count
von Salm-Hoogstraetem, b. Trautenberg 25 Aug 1886, d. Rapallo 1941,
grandson of Konstantin, Prince zu Salm-Salm. They had a son and
daughter who were both born in NYC. Otto Viktor's brother, Ludwig,
Count von Salm-Hoogstraeten, b. Homburg 24 Feb 1885, d. Budapest 23
Jul 1944, m. NYC 8 Jan 1924 as his 2nd wife, Millicent Rogers, b. NYC
2 Feb 1902, d. Albuquerque, NM, 12 Jan 1953, dau. of Col. Henry
Huddleston Rogers and Mary Benjamin Rodgers and granddau. of H. H.
Rogers, Vice President of Standard Oil, who left an estate of almost
$50 million. They had a son, Peter, Count von Salm-Hoogstraeton, b.
NYC 27 Sep 1925. She later married Ronal Balcom. Count Ludwig had
earlier named as his fiancee' American Mrs. Grace Sands Montgomery
Coffin but that marriage did not take place. Millicent's maternal
grandmother, Jane Miller Seymour Benjamin, had a brother, Eugene Ford
Seymour, whose dau., Frances Ford Seymour, m. actor Henry Fonda (1905
? 1982).
Rick
Thank you.
Did Count Peter von Salm-Hoogstraeten marry? Does he have descendants
living in the U.S.?
In 1969, he married Wiltraud, Baroness von Fürstenberg (1940-).
They have at least two children, Antonia (1973-), whom I mentioned
above, and Ludwig (1979-).
Where was the article you saw about Maud's remarriage?
Did it mention the year of her divorce?
Steven
The item originally appeared in the May, 1984 edition of Town &
Country Magazine. I unfortunately do not have access to the entire
acticle.
The Town & Country Social Directory, 1846-1996. Pub. Abrams, 1996,
French, Mrs. Stuyvesant Leroy-Salm-Hope-(Maud Coster) "We don't live
in any kind of grandeur here, we don't want to," remarks Mrs.
Stuyvesant French, ninety year old grande dame of Tuxedo Park. "Tuxedo
is a very unpretentious place. Some people move here, and try to be
pretentious, but they don't last."
Sorry no mention of the year of their divorce. It would be interesting
to know who her second husband Mr. Hope was.
In the 1954 Social Register, she is Mrs. John G. Hope living at 333 E.
68th St., NYC, with her son, H. Alex Salm.
Rick
Thanks. I know there is a Lord Hope, and thought that her second
Husband might have been a member of that family.
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
2003-11-18 00:21:56 UTC
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Post by Rick Hutto
In the 1954 Social Register, she is Mrs. John G. Hope living at 333 E.
68th St., NYC, with her son, H. Alex Salm.
Rick
Thanks. I know there is a Lord Hope, and thought that .her second
Husband might have been a member of that family.
Is there any chance any of these Hopes is related to Henry Philip Hope, the
man for whom the Hope Diamond is named? (After his death it passed to his
nephew Henry Thomas Hope and ultimately to the nephew's grandson Lord
Francis Hope. It was the latter who sold it out of the family.)
--
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Don Aitken
2003-11-18 02:07:59 UTC
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Post by Rick Hutto
In the 1954 Social Register, she is Mrs. John G. Hope living at 333 E.
68th St., NYC, with her son, H. Alex Salm.
Rick
Thanks. I know there is a Lord Hope, and thought that .her second
Husband might have been a member of that family.
Is there any chance any of these Hopes is related to Henry Philip Hope, the
man for whom the Hope Diamond is named? (After his death it passed to his
nephew Henry Thomas Hope and ultimately to the nephew's grandson Lord
Francis Hope. It was the latter who sold it out of the family.)
A contemporary comment, quoted by Masters from Nancy Mitford's "The
Stanleys of Alderley", presumably from Stanley family correspondance:

"Lord Lincoln is to marry Miss Hope, the daughter of ugly little Henry
Hope with the big house in Piccadilly. She is illegitimate, but
pretty. Her mother is a Frenchwoman. She will have all Hope's fortune,
£50,000 a year. It is a great thing for the dukedom of Newcastle, and
will set it on its legs again."

It was as a result of this marriage that the surname of the dukes of
Newcastle became Pelham-Clinton-Hope. The male line became extinct,
and the dukedom with it, in 1988.

I don't know if other lines of the original Hopes survive, but the
fact that Henry left everything to an illegitimate daughter would
suggest not.

The Hope Diamond was said (as such things often are) to bring bad luck
to its owners.
--
Don Aitken

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edespalais
2003-11-17 18:00:09 UTC
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Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
Maud and the count were divorced. I searched SSDI
under first name "Maud" and date of birth "30 April 1895."
There was one match-- a Maud C (as in Coster?) French,
resident of the state of New York, who died on
29 December 1987. This is probably the ex-countess.
Maud's grand-niece, Antonia von Salm-Hoogstraeten,
graduated from Brown University a few years ago.
Thank you.
Yes, I see from a brief article I just came across that Maud was
married after her divroce, to Stuyvesant Leroy French.
Do you know if Otto and Maud's daughter ever married?
Luise (1917-1951) appears to have died unmarried according to
the Salm genealogies I have. Also I know of no marriage info for
her brother Alexander (1919-).
Post by Eric Shaw
Post by Rick Hutto
Maud Coster, b. NYC 30 Apr 1895, m. NYC 26 May 1915 Otto Viktor, Count
von Salm-Hoogstraetem, b. Trautenberg 25 Aug 1886, d. Rapallo 1941,
grandson of Konstantin, Prince zu Salm-Salm. They had a son and
daughter who were both born in NYC. Otto Viktor's brother, Ludwig,
Count von Salm-Hoogstraeten, b. Homburg 24 Feb 1885, d. Budapest 23
Jul 1944, m. NYC 8 Jan 1924 as his 2nd wife, Millicent Rogers, b. NYC
2 Feb 1902, d. Albuquerque, NM, 12 Jan 1953, dau. of Col. Henry
Huddleston Rogers and Mary Benjamin Rodgers and granddau. of H. H.
Rogers, Vice President of Standard Oil, who left an estate of almost
$50 million. They had a son, Peter, Count von Salm-Hoogstraeton, b.
NYC 27 Sep 1925. She later married Ronal Balcom. Count Ludwig had
earlier named as his fiancee' American Mrs. Grace Sands Montgomery
Coffin but that marriage did not take place. Millicent's maternal
grandmother, Jane Miller Seymour Benjamin, had a brother, Eugene Ford
Seymour, whose dau., Frances Ford Seymour, m. actor Henry Fonda (1905
? 1982).
Rick
Thank you.
Did Count Peter von Salm-Hoogstraeten marry? Does he have descendants
living in the U.S.?
In 1969, he married Wiltraud, Baroness von Fürstenberg (1940-).
They have at least two children, Antonia (1973-), whom I mentioned
above, and Ludwig (1979-).
Where was the article you saw about Maud's remarriage?
Did it mention the year of her divorce?
Steven
The item originally appeared in the May, 1984 edition of Town &
Country Magazine. I unfortunately do not have access to the entire
acticle.
The Town & Country Social Directory, 1846-1996. Pub. Abrams, 1996,
French, Mrs. Stuyvesant Leroy-Salm-Hope-(Maud Coster) "We don't live
in any kind of grandeur here, we don't want to," remarks Mrs.
Stuyvesant French, ninety year old grande dame of Tuxedo Park. "Tuxedo
is a very unpretentious place. Some people move here, and try to be
pretentious, but they don't last."
Sorry no mention of the year of their divorce. It would be interesting
to know who her second husband Mr. Hope was.
In the 1954 Social Register, she is Mrs. John G. Hope living at 333 E.
68th St., NYC, with her son, H. Alex Salm.
Rick
Thanks. I know there is a Lord Hope, and thought that her second
Husband might have been a member of that family.
Would remove the "s" from Salm.
History Writer
2003-11-17 20:30:58 UTC
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From message below it appears that Jane and Peter Fonda (children of
Frances Ford Seymour and Henry Fonda) are second cousins once removed
of Peter, Count von Salm-Hoogstaeton (b. 1925).
Post by Rick Hutto
Maud Coster, b. NYC 30 Apr 1895, m. NYC 26 May 1915 Otto Viktor, Count
von Salm-Hoogstraetem, b. Trautenberg 25 Aug 1886, d. Rapallo 1941,
grandson of Konstantin, Prince zu Salm-Salm. They had a son and
daughter who were both born in NYC. Otto Viktor's brother, Ludwig,
Count von Salm-Hoogstraeten, b. Homburg 24 Feb 1885, d. Budapest 23
Jul 1944, m. NYC 8 Jan 1924 as his 2nd wife, Millicent Rogers, b. NYC
2 Feb 1902, d. Albuquerque, NM, 12 Jan 1953, dau. of Col. Henry
Huddleston Rogers and Mary Benjamin Rodgers and granddau. of H. H.
Rogers, Vice President of Standard Oil, who left an estate of almost
$50 million. They had a son, Peter, Count von Salm-Hoogstraeton, b.
NYC 27 Sep 1925. She later married Ronal Balcom. Count Ludwig had
earlier named as his fiancee' American Mrs. Grace Sands Montgomery
Coffin but that marriage did not take place. Millicent's maternal
grandmother, Jane Miller Seymour Benjamin, had a brother, Eugene Ford
Seymour, whose dau., Frances Ford Seymour, m. actor Henry Fonda (1905
? 1982).
Rick
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Post by Eric Shaw
Maud Coster of New York City married Count Otto von Salm-Hoogstraeten
in 1915. Does anyone have a date of death for her? I know she was
living as of 1985, at which point she was 90 years old.
Did either of her children marry? I know there is a Count Alexander
von Salm living in Tuxedo Park, New York-presumably a descendant of
Henry Alexander von Salm b. 1919.
Henry Alexander von Salm who was born in 1919 died on 14 November 2016 and his mother was born in 1 January 1884 and not on 30 April 1895.
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