Discussion:
Aristocratic deaths, April, 2004
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-06 13:52:12 UTC
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Major the 17th Lord Sinclair, CVO, late the Coldstream Guards, Extra
Equerry to Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, 1953-2002; Lord
Lieutenant, Dumfries & Galloway Region (District of Stewartry)
1982-89, has died aged 89.

His ancestor, William Sinclair, 3rd Earl of Orkney (created 1379); was
created a Lord of Parliament as Lord Sinclair circa 1449; was further
created Earl of Caithness, 1455, resigned the Earldom of Orkney to the
Crown about 1470, and the Earldom of Caithness later.

Charles Murray Kennedy St Clair was born 21 June, 1914, the only son
of the 16th Lord Sinclair, MVO, (1875-1957), Extra Equerry to Prince
Arthur of Connaught, 1914-38, by his wife Violet Frances, daughter of
Colonel John Murray Kennedy, MVO, and was educated at Eton and
Magdalene College, Cambridge.

Career: served in the War of 1939-45, in Palestine (where he was
wounded and mentioned in despatches); retired as Major Coldstream
Guards 1947; Portcullis Pursuivant of Arms, 1949-57; York Herald
1957-68, retired; succeeded to the peerage on the death of his father,
1957; a representative peer for Scotland 1959-63; Deputy Lieutenant
for Kirkcudbrightshire, 1969; Vice-Lord Lieutenant for Dumfries &
Galloway, 1977-82; Member Queen's Body Guard for Scotland (Royal
Company of Archers).

Lord Sinclair was appointed LVO 1953; CVO 1990.

He married in 1968, Anne Lettice, younger daughter of Sir Richard
Cotterell, 5th Baronet, CBE, by whom he had one son and two daughters,
Laura and Annabel.

The peerage now devolves upon his only son, the Hon. Matthew Murray
Kennedy St Clair, Master of Sinclair, who was born 9 December, 1968.

The Daily Telegraph death notice, 5 April, 2004, contained no date of
death.

---Michael (please delete x to e-mail me)
Louis Epstein
2004-04-07 01:13:49 UTC
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Post by Michael Rhodes
Major the 17th Lord Sinclair, CVO, late the Coldstream Guards, Extra
Equerry to Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, 1953-2002; Lord
Lieutenant, Dumfries & Galloway Region (District of Stewartry)
1982-89, has died aged 89.
His ancestor, William Sinclair, 3rd Earl of Orkney (created 1379); was
created a Lord of Parliament as Lord Sinclair circa 1449; was further
created Earl of Caithness, 1455, resigned the Earldom of Orkney to the
Crown about 1470, and the Earldom of Caithness later.
Charles Murray Kennedy St Clair was born 21 June, 1914, the only son
of the 16th Lord Sinclair, MVO, (1875-1957), Extra Equerry to Prince
Arthur of Connaught, 1914-38, by his wife Violet Frances, daughter of
Colonel John Murray Kennedy, MVO, and was educated at Eton and
Magdalene College, Cambridge.
Career: served in the War of 1939-45, in Palestine (where he was
wounded and mentioned in despatches); retired as Major Coldstream
Guards 1947; Portcullis Pursuivant of Arms, 1949-57; York Herald
1957-68, retired;
Was he the last survivor of the corporate members of the
College of Arms officiating at the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth II?
I think some temporary officers are still alive but no actual
Kings of Arms,Heralds,or Pursuivants?

The ability to draw on living memory planning next time
will not be much different from that of Edward VII in 1902,
except that Victoria's coronation was not filmed/videotaped!
Post by Michael Rhodes
succeeded to the peerage on the death of his father,
1957; a representative peer for Scotland 1959-63; Deputy Lieutenant
for Kirkcudbrightshire, 1969; Vice-Lord Lieutenant for Dumfries &
Galloway, 1977-82; Member Queen's Body Guard for Scotland (Royal
Company of Archers).
Lord Sinclair was appointed LVO 1953; CVO 1990.
He married in 1968, Anne Lettice, younger daughter of Sir Richard
Cotterell, 5th Baronet, CBE, by whom he had one son and two daughters,
Laura and Annabel.
The peerage now devolves upon his only son, the Hon. Matthew Murray
Kennedy St Clair, Master of Sinclair, who was born 9 December, 1968.
The Daily Telegraph death notice, 5 April, 2004, contained no date of
death.
---Michael (please delete x to e-mail me)
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Sam McCacken
2004-04-07 21:36:37 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
The ability to draw on living memory planning next time
will not be much different from that of Edward VII in 1902,
except that Victoria's coronation was not filmed/videotaped!
Actually the exemplary coronation in 1902 was not that of 1838 but that of
1831. Victoria's coronation provided no evidence for handling a Queen
Consort. As it happened, there was a living witness of the coronation of
William IV, namely the aunt of Queen Mary (as she became), a German grand
duchess (Mecklenburg, as I recall) who was to prove the last surviving
grandchild of George III. She she had attended the affair in 1831, and had
an excellent memory for the details, and they did not have to improvise for
Queen Alexandra.
Louis Epstein
2004-04-08 03:18:30 UTC
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Post by Sam McCacken
Post by Louis Epstein
The ability to draw on living memory planning next time
will not be much different from that of Edward VII in 1902,
except that Victoria's coronation was not filmed/videotaped!
Actually the exemplary coronation in 1902 was not that of 1838 but that of
1831. Victoria's coronation provided no evidence for handling a Queen
Consort. As it happened, there was a living witness of the coronation of
William IV, namely the aunt of Queen Mary (as she became), a German grand
duchess (Mecklenburg, as I recall) who was to prove the last surviving
grandchild of George III. She she had attended the affair in 1831, and had
an excellent memory for the details, and they did not have to improvise for
Queen Alexandra.
Interesting.
She was born in 1822 and died in 1916.

I suppose there might also have been some consultation of the 4th Baron
Gwydir (born 1810,died 1909) whose uncle the 2nd Baron was the Deputy
Lord Great Chamberlain at the Coronations of George IV(1821) and Victoria.

Anyway,the Coronation of 2005-plus-X will have fewer holdover participants
than 1953,1937,or 1911,though the prospective Charles III was there as a
four-year-old in 1953.

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Sam McCacken
2004-04-08 15:42:18 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
Interesting.
She was born in 1822 and died in 1916.
My memory comes back--Princess Augusta of Cambridge, Grand Duchess of
Mecklenburg-Strelitz. She and her niece were regular correspondents, and
there is much interesting detail to be gleaned. The niece, albeit known as
May in the family, was in fact Princess Victoria Mary of Teck, and signed
herself before 1911 as "Victoria Mary." When she became Queen, it was
decided that references to "Queen Victoria" would have been endlessly
confusing (and apparently everyone agreed with Edward VII that double names
were un-English.) So she became Queen Mary, and in her first letter to her
aunt as Queen, she signed as Mary R.I. and added a PS "How do you like my
new name?"
Gidzmo
2004-04-09 19:18:39 UTC
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Victoria's coronation provided no evidence for handling a Queen Consort.
Actually, Victoria was a Queen Regnant, the first one since Queen Anne in th
1700s.

The present Queen's coronation ceremony in 1953 was televised, IIRC. Don't
know if there was any commentary, as there would be today.

Of course, with current events, perhaps the relevant information on coronations
is kept somewhere? Perhaps with the College of Arms?
Don Aitken
2004-04-09 21:45:00 UTC
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Post by Gidzmo
The present Queen's coronation ceremony in 1953 was televised, IIRC. Don't
know if there was any commentary, as there would be today.
I believe there was, but in those days all TV was live, and there was
no way of recording programmes, other than "telecine", which involved
pointing a film camera at a TV set, which produced a quality of
picture which is totally unwatchable today. However, the coronation
was not just televised, it was filmed as well. The cinema newsreel
version is still available, and was extensively shown around the time
of the Golden Jubilee.

You can watch it, and much other coronation-related material online -
the entire British-Pathe archive is available as streamed video. Go to
http://www.itnarchive.com/britishpathe/ and search on "coronation".
Free registration required.
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Don Aitken

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Walter Kaufman
2004-04-10 00:33:55 UTC
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It was not the first coronation to be televised. The first coronation to
be televised was that of George VI in 1937. This was only one year after
the BBC started scheduled television broadcasting, using the electron
tube. After many years experimenting with John Logie Baird's mechanical
revolving disk system, and British General Electric's electronic system.
The electronic system won out, and the BBC started regularly scheduled
television from Alexandra Palace in 1936. Regarding the 1937 coronation,
camera were, of course, not allowed in the Abbey, but three television
cameras were stationed along the route from the Palace to the Abbey.
There were about 5 to 6 thousand television in Great Britain at that
time. Sir Harold Nicholson, the writer, had an early TV set, and
mentions it in his diary.
Bubbablue
2004-04-11 20:10:46 UTC
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Post by Don Aitken
The cinema newsreel
version is still available, and was extensively shown around the time
of the Golden Jubilee.
An immediate copy of the film was airlifted to Canada for next-day
broadcast on the CBC. The original film is either in the National
Archives of Canada in Ottawa or the CBC archives. Copies can be
ordered on VHS at Blockbuster - that's how we got ours. I don't know
if they're planning to come out with it on DVD.

wd40
Anne
2004-04-12 14:13:31 UTC
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Post by Bubbablue
Post by Don Aitken
The cinema newsreel
version is still available, and was extensively shown around the time
of the Golden Jubilee.
An immediate copy of the film was airlifted to Canada for next-day
broadcast on the CBC. The original film is either in the National
Archives of Canada in Ottawa or the CBC archives. Copies can be
ordered on VHS at Blockbuster - that's how we got ours. I don't know
if they're planning to come out with it on DVD.
Make that SAME day broadcast on the CBC. We watched it later in the day,
after the local Coronation parades had taken place in both the morning and
afternoon.
Louis Epstein
2004-04-11 02:54:54 UTC
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Post by Gidzmo
Victoria's coronation provided no evidence for handling a Queen Consort.
Actually, Victoria was a Queen Regnant, the first one since Queen Anne in th
1700s.
AND THAT IS WHY her Coronation offered no guidance
for that of 1902 when there was a Queen Consort to be crowned!
Post by Gidzmo
The present Queen's coronation ceremony in 1953 was televised, IIRC. Don't
know if there was any commentary, as there would be today.
Of course, with current events, perhaps the relevant information on
coronations is kept somewhere? Perhaps with the College of Arms?
I am sure some information has always been written down,
but the lack of living memory can be an obstacle.

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Robert Hall
2004-04-11 07:02:25 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Gidzmo
Victoria's coronation provided no evidence for handling a Queen Consort.
Actually, Victoria was a Queen Regnant, the first one since Queen Anne in th
1700s.
AND THAT IS WHY her Coronation offered no guidance
for that of 1902 when there was a Queen Consort to be crowned!
Post by Gidzmo
The present Queen's coronation ceremony in 1953 was televised, IIRC. Don't
know if there was any commentary, as there would be today.
Of course, with current events, perhaps the relevant information on
coronations is kept somewhere? Perhaps with the College of Arms?
I am sure some information has always been written down,
but the lack of living memory can be an obstacle.
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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Well, I obviously was not there, but I do have the film & tranfer to
video. There was commentary, but it has been a while since I watched
the thing. As I recall, it was a pre Dimbleby guy who narrated in
hused voice the proceedings.
Michael Rhodes
2004-04-11 19:47:14 UTC
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Post by Robert Hall
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Gidzmo
Victoria's coronation provided no evidence for handling a Queen Consort.
Actually, Victoria was a Queen Regnant, the first one since Queen Anne in th
1700s.
AND THAT IS WHY her Coronation offered no guidance
for that of 1902 when there was a Queen Consort to be crowned!
Post by Gidzmo
The present Queen's coronation ceremony in 1953 was televised, IIRC. Don't
know if there was any commentary, as there would be today.
Of course, with current events, perhaps the relevant information on
coronations is kept somewhere? Perhaps with the College of Arms?
I am sure some information has always been written down,
but the lack of living memory can be an obstacle.
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Well, I obviously was not there, but I do have the film & tranfer to
video. There was commentary, but it has been a while since I watched
the thing. As I recall, it was a pre Dimbleby guy who narrated in
hused voice the proceedings.
It was David and Jonathan's late father, the great Richard Dimbleby.
Louis Epstein
2004-04-12 03:13:43 UTC
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Post by Michael Rhodes
Post by Robert Hall
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Gidzmo
Victoria's coronation provided no evidence for handling a Queen Consort.
Actually, Victoria was a Queen Regnant, the first one since Queen
Anne in th 1700s.
AND THAT IS WHY her Coronation offered no guidance
for that of 1902 when there was a Queen Consort to be crowned!
Post by Gidzmo
The present Queen's coronation ceremony in 1953 was televised, IIRC.
Don't know if there was any commentary, as there would be today.
Of course, with current events, perhaps the relevant information on
coronations is kept somewhere? Perhaps with the College of Arms?
I am sure some information has always been written down,
but the lack of living memory can be an obstacle.
Well, I obviously was not there, but I do have the film & tranfer to
video. There was commentary, but it has been a while since I watched
the thing. As I recall, it was a pre Dimbleby guy who narrated in
hused voice the proceedings.
It was David and Jonathan's late father, the great Richard Dimbleby.
Was going to say that.

I don't have the television version,but I do have a video of the
Rank film narrated by Olivier,A QUEEN IS CROWNED.

As I said upthread,none of this existed for Victoria,
so those in 1902 were in an even worse position than
next time,likely.
Post by Michael Rhodes
Post by Robert Hall
Post by Louis Epstein
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Robert Hall
2004-04-12 17:28:12 UTC
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Post by Michael Rhodes
Post by Robert Hall
Post by Louis Epstein
Post by Gidzmo
Victoria's coronation provided no evidence for handling a Queen Consort.
Actually, Victoria was a Queen Regnant, the first one since Queen Anne in th
1700s.
AND THAT IS WHY her Coronation offered no guidance
for that of 1902 when there was a Queen Consort to be crowned!
Post by Gidzmo
The present Queen's coronation ceremony in 1953 was televised, IIRC. Don't
know if there was any commentary, as there would be today.
Of course, with current events, perhaps the relevant information on
coronations is kept somewhere? Perhaps with the College of Arms?
I am sure some information has always been written down,
but the lack of living memory can be an obstacle.
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Well, I obviously was not there, but I do have the film & tranfer to
video. There was commentary, but it has been a while since I watched
the thing. As I recall, it was a pre Dimbleby guy who narrated in
hused voice the proceedings.
It was David and Jonathan's late father, the great Richard Dimbleby.
Of course, I should have known !!
Michael Rhodes
2004-04-07 01:50:53 UTC
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Lady Adam Gordon, who died in Scotland, 2 April, 2004, was the widow
of Major Lord Adam Granville Gordon, KCVO, MBE, RA (1909-84), younger
brother of the 12th Marquess of Huntly.

She was Pamela, daughter of Alexander Herriot Bowhill, CBE, of
Inchmarlo, Banchory, Kincardineshire, and married Lord Adam in 1947.
(He had been raised to the rank of a younger son of a Marquess in
1937).

Lord Adam was Comptoller to Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother, 1953-73,
and Exra Equerry to Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother from 1974, who
was appointed KCVO in 1970.

She leaves two sons, Adam Alexander (b. 1948), and Douglas Herriot (b.
1951). The latter was a Page of Honour to Queen Elizabeth II, 1965-67.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-07 12:12:50 UTC
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Sheila Margaret Maitland-Makgill-Crichton (nee Hibbins), wife since
1951, of Major-General Edward Maitland-Makgill-Crichton, OBE (b.
1916), scion of the Earls of Lauderdale, died at Edinburgh, 1 April,
2004; mother of David, James & Charles.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-08 02:09:46 UTC
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Catherine Chianese (nee Dent-Brocklehurst), wife of Francesco
Chianese, and mother of Luciano, died at Umbria, 2 April, 2004.

She was a scion of the Dent-Brocklehursts on Sudeley Castle,
Gloucestershire, and descended from the Earls of Harewood (see
Debrett's Peerage pre 1938).
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-09 00:46:56 UTC
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The Hon. Robin Hugh Warrender, who died 6 April, 2004, aged 76, was
the third son of Victor Alexander George Anthony Warrender, 1st Baron
Bruntisfield, MC, (1899-1993), a Godson of Queen Victoria, by his wife
Dorothy (d. 1975), daughter of Colonel Richard Hamilton Rawson, MP, by
his first wife Lady Beatrice Anson, daughter of the 2nd Earl of
Lichfield.

He was born 24 December, 1927, and educted at Eton and Trinity
College, Oxford.

He married in 1951, Gillian Elizabeth, the only daughter of Leonard
Lewis Rossiter, by his wife Elsie Rose, daughter of Sir Bernard
Oppenheimer, 1st Baronet, by whom he had a son, Hugh Mark (b. 1968),
and two daughters, Carolyn (b. 1953), and Annabel (b. 1956) who is
married to the heir to the 3rd Baron Colgrain.

Lady Gilmour, of Montrave, Leven, Fife, wife of Sir John Gilmour, 3rd
Baronet, DSO, TD, JP, died 6 April, 2004. She was aged 87.

She was the former Ursula Mabyn Wills, younger daughter of Frank
Oliver Wills, of Cote Lodge, Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol, and married
John Edward Gilmour, 24 May, 1941.

Her husband, who succeeded to the baronetcy in 1940, was Lord
Lieutenant of Fife, 1980-87; Lord High Commissioner to the General
Assembly of the Church of Scotland 1982 and 1983; Conservative MP for
East Fife, 1961-79; Chairman of the Conservative & Unionist Party in
Scotland 1965-67, &c.

She is survived by her husband and by two sons, John and Andrew.

Robin Patrick Fremantle, who has died from cancer, aged 73, was a
scion of the Barons Cottesloe.

He was born 3 August, 1930, son of Major Maurice Alan Patrick
Fremantle (1900-72), by his wife Ida Thelma Gordon Wells Bloxsome, and
was educated at Eton and the Royal Military College Sandhurst.

Captain, 4th Queen's Own Hussars, &c. Chairman, The Economic League,
1989-93; Principal Fremantle and Co., since 1980.

Married 1stly 4 April, 1962, (divorced 1980) June Helen Cardiff (of
that landed family) by whom he had a son, Charles (b. 1964), and a
daughter, Serena (b. 1967). Married secondly, 1985, (Honor) Diana,
daughter of Sir (Coles) John Child, 2nd Baronet, and widow of Noel
Matterson.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-14 01:24:21 UTC
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Sir Douglas Hall, 14th Baronet, KCMG, Governor and Commander-in-Chief,
Somaliland Protectorate, 1959-60, died at his home, 8 April, 2004,
aged 95.

Douglas Basil Hall was born 1 February, 1909, son of Capt. Lionel
Erskine Hall [d. 1948], by his wife Jane Augusta Reynolds, and was
educated at Radley College, and Keble College, Oxford [MA].

Career: joined the Colonial Administrative Service 1930; posted to
Northern Rhodesia as a Cadet; District Officer, 1932; Senior District
Officer, 1950; Provincial Commissioner, 1953; Administrative
Secretary, 1954; Secretary for Native Affairs to the Government of
Northern Rhodesia, 1956-59; Acting Chief Secretary for a period during
1958; Governor and Commander-in-Chief, Somaliland Protectorate,
1959-60; Justice of the Peace for Devon, 1964; Chairman, Kingsbridge
Petty Sessional Division, 1971-79; &c.

He was appointed CMG in 1958; KCMG 1959.

He succeeded to the baronetcy on the demise of his elder brother, Sir
Neville Hall, 13th Baronet, 5 July, 1978.

He married in 1933, Rachel Marion Gartside-Tippinge, by whom he had
two sons and two daughters (one son pre-deceased him). Lady Hall died
in 1990.

The baronetcy now devolves on his only surviving son, John Douglas
Hoste Hall, b. 7 January, 1945, who is married with two sons.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-14 02:06:25 UTC
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Faith Dorothy Caldwell Scott-Elliott (nee Cook), who died 9 April,
2004, aged 87, was the only daughter of Arthur Caldwell Cook, of
Little Batsford, Gerrad's Cross, Buckinghamshire, and married (i) 13
Jan, 1940, Walter Pierre Courtauld (b. 1910), of the landed family of
Courtauld of Gosfield, by whom she had issue, Simon, Richard, Sarah &
Julia. Married (ii) Mr-----Scott-Elliott
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-14 09:30:09 UTC
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Faith Dorothy Caldwell Scott-Elliott (nee Cook), who died 9 April,
2004, aged 87, was the only daughter of Arthur Caldwell Cook, of
Little Batsford, Gerrad's Cross, Buckinghamshire, and married (i) 13
Jan, 1940, Walter Pierre Courtauld (b. 1910), of the landed family of
Courtauld of Gosfield, by whom she had issue, Simon, Richard, Sarah &
Julia. Married (ii) Mr-----Scott-Elliott
Typo: Gerrard's Cross.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-16 01:01:09 UTC
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John Stewart Gatehouse Pelly, who died 10 April, 2004, aged 74, was a
scion of the Pelly Baronets (created in 1840).

He was born in 1930, son of Capt John Noel Pelly, CBE, RN (1888-1945),
by his wife Rosalind Gatehouse, and married in 1960, Helen Josephine,
daughter of Denys Heaton Hirst, by whom he had issue:-

(i) Jennifer, b. 1965
(ii) Catherine, b. 1967
(iii) Helen, b. 1969
(iv) Isobel, b. 1973.
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Christine Mary Heber Percy (nee Gates), who died 13 April, 2004, was
the wife of William David Heber Percy, MBE (b. 1939), scion of the
Dukes of Northumberland.

She was a daughter of Terence Horatio Gates and married Mr Heber Percy
in 1969.
She is survived by her husband and by a son, Peter Hugh (b. 1971), and
a daughter, Robin Virginia (b. 1969).

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The Countess of Clanwilliam, wife of the 7th Earl of Clanwilliam, died
10 April, 2004. She was aged 77.

She was the former Maxine Scott, only daughter of James Adrian
Hayden-Scott, of Isere, France, and former wife of Michael John
Willson Levien, and married the then John Herbert Meade (b. 27 Sept,
1919), a grandson of the 4th Earl of Clanwilliam, in 1956. Her husband
succeeded as 7th Earl and 10th Baronet, on the death of his cousin in
1989.

Lady Clanwilliam is survived by her husband and by her children:-

(i) Adrian Levien
(ii) Lady Rowena Crichton-Stuart, b. 1957
(iii) Patrick, Lord Gillford, b. 28 Dec, 1960
(iv) Lady Tania Compton, b. 1963
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-16 23:57:33 UTC
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Desmond FitzGerald, Knight of Malta, scion of the FitzGerald (Knights
of Kerry) Baronets (created in 1880), died 13 April, 2004. He was aged
93.

(Peter) Desmond FitzGerald, of Querns House, Cirencester,
Gloucestershire, was born 22 May, 1910, the eldest son of
Lieutenant-Colonel (Peter) Francis FitzGerald, DSO, (1879-1968), late
the King's Shropshire Light Infantry, by his wife Adrienne (who d.
1973), only child of Baron Gustave de Geer, of Zeist, Holland.

He married 27 June, 1945, Elizabeth Janet Cameron,daughter of Donald
Norman, by whom he had one son and four daughters.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-17 00:13:07 UTC
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The Hon. Alison Margaret Shaw, b. 8 August, 1956, eldest daughter of
the 3rd Baron Craigmyle (1923-98) by his wife, the former Anthea
Esther Christine Theresa Rich; married Oliver Heggs (but retained her
maiden name); died 11 April, 2004. She was aged 47.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-19 06:20:10 UTC
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The Baron Geraint, life peer, farmer, Extra Lord-in-Waiting to Queen
Elizbaeth II from 1998, died 17 April, 2004. He was aged 79.

Lord Geraint was a leading Liberal Democrat; during his political
career he fought for a Welsh Parliament, championed the Welsh language
and campaigned on behalf of the hill farming community which was close
to his heart.

He was born Geraint Wyn Howells, 15 April, 1925, son of David John
Howells, of Brynglas, Ponterwynd, Cardiganshire, by his wife, Mary
Blodwen, and was educated at Ponterwynd Primary School, and Ardwyn
Grammar School, Aberystwyth.

Career: MP for Cardigan, Feb. 1974-1983, Ceredigion & Pembroke North,
1983-92 [Liberal 1983-88, Liberal Democrat 1988-92], Leader of the
Welsh Liberal Democrats, 1979-85; Deputy Speaker of the House of
Lords, 1994-99; former Member of the British Wool Marketing Board
[Vice-Chairman 1971-83]; Chairman, Wool Producers of Wales Ltd,
1977-87; President, Royal Welsh Agricultural Show, 1983, &c.

He was ennobled on leaving in the House of Commons in 1992, and took
the title of Baron Geraint, of Ponterwynd in the County of Dyfed.

Lord Geraint married in 1957, Mary Olwen Hughes, daughter of Margaret
Ann Griffiths, of Tregaron, Dyfed, by whom he had two daughters,
Gaenor and Mari.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-22 00:33:07 UTC
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The Lord Gibson, life peer, Chairman of the National Trust, 1977-86,
died at his home, Penn's Rocks, Groombridge, Tunbridge Wells, 20
April, 2004. He was aged 88.

Richard Patrick Tallentyre Gibson was born 5 February, 1916, son of
Thornely Carbutt Gibson, of Kensington Gate, London, by his wife
Elizabeth Anne Augusta, and was educated at Eton and Magdalen College,
Oxford.

Career: joined the London Stock Exchange, 1937; served in the army
with the Midlesex Yeomary 1940-46, North Africa 1941, prisoner of war
1941-43; Special Operations Executive, 1943-45; Political Inteligence
Department, Foreign Office, 1945-46; Westminster Press Ltd, 1947-78
(director 1948); Director, Whitehall Securities Corporation, 1948-60,
1973-83; Chairman of the Fincancial Times Ltd, 1975-77; Economist
Newspapers Ltd, 1957-78; Pearson PLC (formerly S. Pearson & Son Ltd)
1960-88 (Deputy Chairman 1969; Executive Deputy Chairman 1975,
Chairman 1978-83); Royal Exchange Association, 1961-69; Chairman,
Pearson Longman Ltd, 1967-79; Hon. Treasurer Commonwealth Press
Union, 1957-67; Chairman of the Arts Council, 1972-77; Vice-President,
RSA, 1986-90; Trustee, Historic Churches Preservation Trust, 1958;
Member of the Advisory Council of the Victoria & Albert Museum,
1968-75 (Chairman 1970); Member of the Board of the Royal Opera House,
1977-87; Treasurer, Sussex University, 1983-87; Trustee, Glyndebourne
Festival Opera, 1965-72 & 1977-86; &c.

He was ennobled in 1975, as Baron Gibson, of Penn's Rocks, in the
County of East Sussex.

He married 14 July, 1945, Elisabeth Dione, third daughter of Major the
Hon. (Bernard) Clive Pearson (1887-1965) (younger brother of the 2nd
Viscount Cowdray), by his wife, the Hon. Alicia Mary Dorothea
Knatchbull-Hugessen, daughter of the 1st Lord Brabourne.

He is survived by Lady Gibson and by four sons, the Hon. Hugh, the
Hon. Clive, the Hon. William, and the Hon. Piers.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-22 10:40:53 UTC
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Charles Weld-Blundell, scion of an old landed family, died at his
home, 20 April, 2004.

He was the husband of Veronica Weld-Blundell, by whom he had issue.
Sadly, he isn't in my vols of the Landed Gentry.

The funeral Mass takes place at St Mary's Church, Chipping,
Lancashire, Wednesday 28 April, 2004.

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Barry Noonan
2004-04-22 19:58:52 UTC
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Charles Joseph Ignatius WELD-BLUNDELL, born 1928 Feb 18, son of John
Joseph Humphrey WELD, later (1924) WELD-BLUNDELL, of the WELDs of
Lulworth, and of Alice Mary WELD-BLUNDELL of the WELD-BLUNDELLs of
Ince Blundell (BLG 1952).

Barry C. Noonan
Madison, WI
Post by Michael Rhodes
Charles Weld-Blundell, scion of an old landed family, died at his
home, 20 April, 2004.
He was the husband of Veronica Weld-Blundell, by whom he had issue.
Sadly, he isn't in my vols of the Landed Gentry.
The funeral Mass takes place at St Mary's Church, Chipping,
Lancashire, Wednesday 28 April, 2004.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-23 13:10:02 UTC
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Post by Barry Noonan
Charles Joseph Ignatius WELD-BLUNDELL, born 1928 Feb 18, son of John
Joseph Humphrey WELD, later (1924) WELD-BLUNDELL, of the WELDs of
Lulworth, and of Alice Mary WELD-BLUNDELL of the WELD-BLUNDELLs of
Ince Blundell (BLG 1952).
Barry C. Noonan
Madison, WI
Thank you! And no doubt related to the Blundell-Hollinshead-Blundells
somewhere along the line?

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Donald Renouf
2004-04-24 01:52:51 UTC
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Post by Michael Rhodes
Post by Barry Noonan
Charles Joseph Ignatius WELD-BLUNDELL, born 1928 Feb 18, son of John
Joseph Humphrey WELD, later (1924) WELD-BLUNDELL, of the WELDs of
Lulworth, and of Alice Mary WELD-BLUNDELL of the WELD-BLUNDELLs of
Ince Blundell (BLG 1952).
Barry C. Noonan
Madison, WI
Thank you! And no doubt related to the Blundell-Hollinshead-Blundells
somewhere along the line?
This just reminds me of Thackeray's creation Horace
Bloundell-Bloundell, "of Bloundell-Bloundell Hall,
Bloundell-Bloundellshire". ("Pendennis", Ch. XX)
Michael Rhodes
2004-04-24 17:27:06 UTC
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Dame Anne Bryans, DBE, DStJ, Chairman of the Order of St John of
Jerusalem and BRCS Service Hospitals Welfare and VAD Committee,
1960-89, died at Lundin Links, Fife, Scotland, 21 April, 2004. She was
94.

She was born Anne Margaret Gilmour, 29 October, 1909, daughter of the
Right Honourable Sir John Gilmour, 2nd Baronet, GCVO, DSO, MP, of
Montrave, by his wife, the former Mary Louise Lambert, and was
educated privately.

Career: joined HQ Staff of the British Red Cross Society, 1938; Deputy
Commissioner, British Red Cross and St John War Organisation, Middle
East Commission, 1943; Commissioner, Jan-June, 1945; Deputy Chairman
1953-64, Vice-Chairman, 1964-76, Executive Committee, BRCS; Lay Member
Council for Professions Supplementary Med., 1973-79; Member of the
Board of Governors, Eastman Dental Hospital, 1973-79; Member, Camden
and Islington Area Health Authority, 1974-79; Vice-President, Open
Section, Royal Society of Medicine, 1975, President 1980-82; was a
Member of the ITA, later IBA; Member of the Government Anglo-Egyptian
Resettlement Board; Member of the BBC/ITA Appeals Committee; Special
Trustee and former Chairman of the Royal Free Hospital and the Friends
of the Royal Free Hospital; former Vice-President of the Royal College
of Nursing; former Governor of Westminster Hospital, &c.

She married in 1932, Lieutenant-Commander J.R. Bryans, RN, who died in
1990. She leaves one son, Patrick.

Her brother is Sir John Gilmour, 3rd Baronet, who lost his wife
earlier in April.

A Thanksgiving Service takes place at Largo & Newburn Parish Church,
Upper Largo, Friday 7 May, 2004.

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Patrick Dacre Trevor-Roper, the distinguished consultant opthalmic
surgeon, born 1916, yr son of Dr Bertie William E. Trevor-Roper, of
Alnwick, scion of the Barons Teynham, and yr brother of Prof. Hugh
Redwald Trevor-Roper (1914-2003), the historian (remember the brouhaha
over the *Hitler Diaries*?), who was raised to the peerage as Baron
Dacre of Glanton; died unm, 22 April, 2004.
He leaves a partner, Herman.

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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-26 23:29:55 UTC
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The Hon. Betty Clay, CBE, the youngest daughter of the scouting
movement founder the 1st Baron Baden-Powell, OM, GCMG, GCVO, KCB, died
24 April, 2004, at the age of 87. Scout Association and Girlguiding UK
spokesman Simon Carter said Mrs Clay, who was still a vice-president
of the movement when she died in a Somerset nursing home, was
considered the last direct link with Lord Baden-Powell.

She was born Betty St. Clair Baden-Powell, 16 April, 1917, second
daughter of the then Robert Baden-Powell, by his wife, Olave St. Clair
Soames, scion of that landed gentry family.

She married in 1936, Gervase Charles Robert Clay, a provincial
commissioner in the Colonial Service, elder son of Gerald Arden Clay,
of Kitwe, Nortern Rhodesia, and was the mother of three sons, Robin,
Nigel and Crispin, and one daughter, Gillian.

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Michael Rhodes
2004-04-29 13:17:37 UTC
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Ruby Irene Dru Drury, who died at Witney, 20 April, 2004, aged 94,
formerly of Rualds Close, Wallingford, was the second wife, and widow,
of the Rev. Reginald Dru Drury (b. 14 Aug, 1900- d.?), head of that
landed family.

She was the widow of Errol Basil Boddington Smart, and married Mr Dru
Drury, 27 April, 1959.
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Michael Rhodes
2004-05-01 12:27:04 UTC
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The 8th Baron Henniker, KCMG, CVO, MC, late of Her Majesty's
Diplomatic Service, sometime Ambassador to Jordan and to Denmark, died
at his home in Thornham, Suffolk, 29 April, 2004. He was aged 88.

He was born John Patrick Edward Chandos Henniker-Major, 19 February,
1916, son of the 7th Baron Henniker (1883-1980) by his wife Molly (who
died in 1953), daughter of Sir Robert Burnet, KCVO, and was educated
at Stowe and Trinity College, Cambridge.

The Barony of Henniker is in the Peerage of Ireland (created in 1800),
and Lord Henniker sat in the House of Lords as Baron Hartismere (in
the Peerage of the UK, created 1866). He was also a Baronet.

Career: joined HM Foreign Service in 1938; served in the Second World
War 1940-45 as Major in the Rifle Brigade; HM Embassy, Belgrade,
1945-46; Assistant Private Secretary to the Secretary of State for
Foreign Affairs, 1946-48; Foreign Office, 1948-50; HM Embassy, Buenos
Aires, 1950-52; Foreign Office, 1952-60 (Counsellor and Head of
Personnel Department 1953); Ambassador to Jordan, 1960-62; to Denmark,
1962-66; Civil Service Commission, 1966-67; Assistant Under-Secretary
of State, Foreign & Commonwealth Office, 1967-68; Director-General,
The British Council, 1968-72; Lay Member, Mental Health Review
Tribunal (Broadmoor), 1975-81; Member of the Parole Board, 1979-83;
Member of the Council of the University of East Anglia, 1979-86;
Member of the Council of Toynbee Hall, 1978-90; Chairman, Intermediate
Treatment Fund, Rainer Foundation, 1985-90; Chairman, Suffolk
Community Alcohol Services, 1983-93; Member of the Suffolk Rural
Housing Association from 1984; President, Suffolk Agricultural
Society, 1989; Trustee, City Parochial Foundation, 1973-90; Trustee,
London Festival Ballet, 1975-85; Governor, Cripplegate Foundation,
1979-90; Governor of Stowe School, 1982-90; Deputy Lieutenant for the
County of Suffolk, 1988, &c.

He succeeded to the peerages and baronetcy on the death of his father,
1980.

Lord Henniker married twice, firstly 18 Dec, 1946, Margaret Osla,
daughter of James William Benning, of Montreal, Canada, by whom he had
two sons, Mark (b. 1947), and Charles (b. 1949), and one daughter,
Jane (b. 1954). His first wife died in 1974. He married secondly,
1976, Mrs Julia Marshall Poland, the elder daughter of George M.
Mason, of Kew, who survives him.

Lord Henniker is succeeded by his elder son, the Hon. Mark Ian Philip
Chandos Henniker-Major, b. 29 September, 1947, a godson of HRH The
Duke of Edinburgh, who is married with issue.
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Shinjinee
2004-05-01 07:46:28 UTC
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Post by Michael Rhodes
The Hon. Betty Clay, CBE, the youngest daughter of the scouting
movement founder the 1st Baron Baden-Powell, OM, GCMG, GCVO, KCB, died
24 April, 2004, at the age of 87.
[snip]
Post by Michael Rhodes
She married in 1936, Gervase Charles Robert Clay, a provincial
commissioner in the Colonial Service, elder son of Gerald Arden Clay,
of Kitwe, Nortern Rhodesia, and was the mother of three sons, Robin,
Nigel and Crispin, and one daughter, Gillian.
Her eldest son Robin Baden Clay has done a lot of genealogical
research on his maternal family's ancestors. The 1st Baron
Baden-Powell was son of a professor, Rev Baden Powell (Savilian
Professor of Geometry at Oxford), and had an interesting descent from
Nevile Maskelyne Smith (whose sister Margaret Maskelyne Smith married
Clive of India, father of the 1st Earl of Powis, and ancestor via that
peer, of the 1st Earl of Plymouth).

Some links
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Baden-Powell family history (general)
*http://www.scouts.ru/webs/pinetreeweb/B-P.htm
[website dedicated to scouting and Lord Baden-Powell]
For particular links on family history look here:
http://www.scouts.ru/webs/pinetreeweb/bp-family-index.htm

*http://lachlan.bluehaze.com.au/1860-essays-reviews/smyth_familytree.html
[provides links to pedigree of the Baden-Powells, Powells, etc.; and
several descendants of Lord Baden-Powell]


The American Loyalist ancestry of the late Hon. Mrs Clay
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[great-grandfather of the recently deceased]
Admiral William Henry Smyth (1788-1865) md 1815 Eliza Anne "Annarella"
Warrington, only dau of T. Warrington, of Naples.
*Yes, the name is Annarella, not Annabella.
http://www.scouts.ru/webs/pinetreeweb/bp-admiral.htm
"William Henry Smyth was born on January 21, 1788 in Westminster,
England. He was a descendant [of] Captain John Smith, who was the
principal founder of the first permanent English colony in North
America, at Jamestown, Virginia. He was the only son of *Joseph Brewer
Palmer Smyth, Esq.*, and *Georgina Caroline b. Pilkington*. His
parents were colonial Americans who lived in East Jersey (now New
Jersey), but as a loyalist, emigrated to England after the American
Revolution, where their son was born."
BUT SEE
http://www.zip.com.au/~lnbdds/home/smythbaden.htm
[which questions the John Smith connection, and identifies the full
name of Mrs Smyth as Eliza Anne "Annarella" Warrington].

[grandfather of the recently deceased]
Henrietta Grace Smyth (1824-1914) md 1846 (aged 22) Rev. Baden Powell
(1796-1860), Savilian Professor of Geometry and Fellow of the Royal
Society; several children
*The Rev. Baden Powell was aged 49, the bride was 22 - not an unusual
age discrepancy in Victorian couples, although not the normal age gap
either.
Issue - 6 sons 2 dau

[Father of the recently deceased]
Their 6th son (and 8th child) was:
Robert, 1st Baron Baden-Powell (1857-1941) md 1912 (aged 55) Olave St.
Clair Soames (1889-1977). She lived in a grace-and-favour at Hampton
Court 1943-1976 (i.e. an apartment in a Royal Palace granted to her by
King George VI).
*Same kind of age difference between husband and wife (but wider) - he
was 55, she was 23

[The recently deceased]
Hon. Betty Baden-Powell (1917-2004) md 1936 Gervas(e) Charles Robert
Clay (b. 1907). still living in 2002?
[His son lists his first name as Gervas, not Gervase]

[issue listed above, including an eldest son Robin Baden Clay; some
other descendants of the recently deceased lady (her 2nd son Nigel and
his children; ) seem to have adopted the hyphenated surname of
"Baden-Clay"



From -
Shinjinee
(who found the Pineweb site in looking for the Indian ancestry of
Field Marshal The Earl Roberts]
Michael Rhodes
2004-05-03 09:45:15 UTC
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From uk.people.dead:-
BRIGSTOCKE -- Baroness Heather Renwick, CBE. Died tragically
April 30 as a result of a traffic accident in Athens,
Greece. She was the beloved wife of Hugh Griffiths and the
adored mother of David, Julian, Persephone and Thomas. Her
daughters-inlaw, Nancy and Nicci, and her granddaughters,
Sophie, Emily, Olivia, Lucy and Charlotte, also loved her
deeply. Private family funeral in London.
http://www.politicallinks.co.uk/POLITICS2/BIOG/ld_BIOGS/bio.asp?id=1133
Baroness Brigstocke's second husband is the life Peer Baron Griffiths.

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Michael Rhodes
2004-05-06 00:16:48 UTC
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Count don Luigi De Angioy died at a Kensington, London, nursing home,
28 April, 2004. Who he?
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