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Purchasing Royalty
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p***@yahoo.com
2005-02-24 00:56:12 UTC
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As one browses through the internet, with thier fantasies of one day
becoming a Prince or Princess, they pass through a site,
http://www.offshore-manual.com/Royalty.html. I have tried several times
to get in contact with this company, as I can afford to go through the
process. Anyone have any other ideas on how someone can "purchase"
royalty?
x***@aol.com
2005-02-24 05:07:29 UTC
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um...one can't purchase a title. All of the companies you see are
frauds.
m***@hotmail.com
2005-02-24 07:07:46 UTC
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Interestingly, that website isn't selling a title. It's selling a
quickie marriage to a woman whose title is apparently Princess of
Sayn-Wittgenstein. (Which, curiously, sounds like the name of Princess
Benedikte of Denmark's husband's title - isn't he a Prince of S-W? ...)

And you're right - all those web titles are rubbish, but I think this
site is slightly different. According to the website for $200k you get
a quickie marriage with pre-nup, and an immediate divorce - but it
claims you keep the title.

It does beg one obvious question - do German princesses transmit their
titles to their husbands? And if the answer is yes ... <hehe>

Michael
Uwe
2005-02-24 09:44:20 UTC
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Post by m***@hotmail.com
Interestingly, that website isn't selling a title. It's selling a
quickie marriage to a woman whose title is apparently Princess of
Sayn-Wittgenstein. (Which, curiously, sounds like the name of Princess
Benedikte of Denmark's husband's title - isn't he a Prince of S-W? ...)
And you're right - all those web titles are rubbish, but I think this
site is slightly different. According to the website for $200k you get
a quickie marriage with pre-nup, and an immediate divorce - but it
claims you keep the title.
It does beg one obvious question - do German princesses transmit their
titles to their husbands? And if the answer is yes ... <hehe>
Michael
In german law there is a possibility for wifes transmitting their name
to the husband.
However, the "title" Fuerst von Sayn-Wittgenstein (as opposed to the
form "zu Sayn-Wittgenstein"!, both will translate as "of S-W") is
entirely wothless to a well informed german, because there is only one
descendent (Fuerstin Elisbeth, b. 1927) with that name. Everybody else
with that name is just adopted or has gained that name by marriage.

The titles Fuerst von Sayn-Wittgenstein and Prinz von Anhalt are the
most notorious for being sold to non-nobles.
r***@yahoo.de
2005-02-24 11:01:40 UTC
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The situation in Germany is made more complicated (worse) because a
divorced spouse of someone with a "title" may then marry again or adopt
and tramsit it further. Many have done exactly that and some several
times. It beomes like a Pyramid game with the name becoming ever more
worthless.

I read of one case of a woman who used the "princess of" who had
married a fake who in turn had been adopted by a fake who in turn had
been adopted by another fake etc. I think it went back over 6
transactions to find the real one (the culprit)

Uwe is right about Anhalt (only one real prince Eduard who married
morganatically) and Sayn-Wittgenstein but almost as bad are the number
of von Sachsen and its various branches. Even some extinct branches
have "users" of the name. Like Schwarzburg. The last Prince, who was
openly gay, "adopted" an adult called Peter Fuhrman who uses the name
Fuerst von Schwarzburg. These are just a few examples.

Perhaps the Austrians were right in abolishing all titles as there
adoption and marriage for name is hardly known.

Reinhard
Post by Uwe
In german law there is a possibility for wifes transmitting their name
to the husband.
However, the "title" Fuerst von Sayn-Wittgenstein (as opposed to the
form "zu Sayn-Wittgenstein"!, both will translate as "of S-W") is
entirely wothless to a well informed german, because there is only one
descendent (Fuerstin Elisbeth, b. 1927) with that name. Everybody else
with that name is just adopted or has gained that name by marriage.
The titles Fuerst von Sayn-Wittgenstein and Prinz von Anhalt are the
most notorious for being sold to non-nobles.
George Lucki
2005-02-24 13:51:19 UTC
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Post by m***@hotmail.com
Interestingly, that website isn't selling a title. It's selling a
quickie marriage to a woman whose title is apparently Princess of
Sayn-Wittgenstein. (Which, curiously, sounds like the name of Princess
Benedikte of Denmark's husband's title - isn't he a Prince of S-W? ...)
And you're right - all those web titles are rubbish, but I think this
site is slightly different. According to the website for $200k you get
a quickie marriage with pre-nup, and an immediate divorce - but it
claims you keep the title.
It does beg one obvious question - do German princesses transmit their
titles to their husbands? And if the answer is yes ... <hehe>
Michael
They don't. In German law the former titles are retained as a simple part of
the surname (and no longer a title). You are free to take your wife's name
in marriage and so... what you have purchased is the use of the surname
containing the title for a lot more money than a simple name change.
What I would point out though is that in many places a marriage is not a
marriage until it is consummated and in the absence of the consummation an
annulment rather than a divorce would be the appropriate mechanism. Perhaps
the big sum requested here reflects the price the princess attached to the
extra service of consummation...
What things people won't do with their money... or for money.
Kind regards,
George Lucki
George

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