Post by Francois R. Velde Post by Gillian White Post by Gidzmo
BTW, the Netherlands has limited succession--the right to succeed is limited to
the Sovereign's children and grandchildren.
The degrees of relationship between the old and new monarch cannot be more
How is a degree defined? Are siblings related in a single degree?
In the Netherlands degrees are defined in the Civil Code:
Book 1. Persons and family law
Title 1. General provisions
Article 3. 1. The degree of consanguinity will be established by the
number of births, who have caused the consanguinity. An
acknowledgement, a judicial establishment of fatherhood or an adoption
will count as a birth.
2. Marriage or registered partnership will cause kinship between one
spouse or one registered partner and a cognate of the other spouse or
the other registered partner in the same degree as there is
consanguinity between the other spouse or the other registered partner
and its cognate.
3. Dissolving of the marriage will not abolish the kinship.
Post by Francois R. Velde
Canonical would be 1, Roman would be 2.
The way I parse the article, which I reproduce below in ICL's English
* sovereign's descendants (no limit)
* sovereign's siblings and their descendants (no limit)
* siblings of sovereign's parent (3 degree limit)
Here is the article, which I have broken down according to its apparent
English syntax (the numbers and letters are not in the original, they
are mine). It seems to me that the 3-degree rule only applies to (2b).
"(1) On the death of the King, the title to the Throne shall pass by hereditary
succession to the King's legitimate descendants in order of seniority, the
same rule governing succession by the issue of descendants who predecease the
(2) If the King has no descendants, the title to the Throne shall pass in
the same way
(a) to the legitimate descendants of the King's parent
(b) and then of his grandparent
* who are in the line of succession
* but are not further removed from the deceased King than the third
degree of consanguinity."
In this case the apparent English syntax causes confusion while the
Dutch syntax does not. The limitation to the third degree of
consanguinity applies to both the descendants of the king's parent and
the descendants of the king's grandparent.