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Luxembourg birth
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Charles von Hamm
2006-03-15 02:20:15 UTC
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I take it that Prince Louis is a father now?

See http://www.wort.lu/articles/5111343.html

Charles von Hamm
t***@optusnet.com.au
2006-03-15 11:48:51 UTC
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I wonder if the young boy Gabriel will take a title of "Count" or
simply "Master" due to his parents are not married. This will be
interesting. Also, HH, Prince Louis is the Youngest Royal to be a
parent in Modern times..

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Charles SV
www.maltagenealogy.com
e***@yahoo.fr
2006-03-15 19:59:59 UTC
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Post by t***@optusnet.com.au
I wonder if the young boy Gabriel will take a title of "Count" or
simply "Master" due to his parents are not married. This will be
interesting. Also, HH, Prince Louis is the Youngest Royal to be a
parent in Modern times..
Regards
Charles SV
www.maltagenealogy.com
If he gets a correct history schooling, name and title should be
Gabriel, bastard of Luxembourg
Charles von Hamm
2006-03-15 21:45:40 UTC
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Post by t***@optusnet.com.au
I wonder if the young boy Gabriel will take a title of "Count" or
simply "Master" due to his parents are not married. This will be
interesting. Also, HH, Prince Louis is the Youngest Royal to be a
parent in Modern times..
Regards
Charles SV
www.maltagenealogy.com
Gabriel can't just take a title... He hasn't the right to do so.

Charles von Hamm
KO
2006-03-16 07:00:08 UTC
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Post by Charles von Hamm
Gabriel can't just take a title... He hasn't the right to do so.
Charles von Hamm
What if his parents marry later?
How would the legitimation following the mariage be applied to the
Luxembourg Grand Ducal illegitimate child?


KenO
e***@yahoo.fr
2006-03-16 10:45:16 UTC
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Post by KO
Post by Charles von Hamm
Gabriel can't just take a title... He hasn't the right to do so.
Charles von Hamm
What if his parents marry later?
How would the legitimation following the mariage be applied to the
Luxembourg Grand Ducal illegitimate child?
KenO
Legitimated, it may once even become the grand-duke. All depend of the
constitution. In the states of the House of Austria a child has only
then the capacitas succedend, when conceived after the religious
marriage. One may belong to the House, even be the head of the House,
but one does not have the capacitas succedendi, i.e. one cannot succeed
in the ruling of these states.
Stephen
2006-03-16 11:03:04 UTC
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Post by e***@yahoo.fr
Post by Charles von Hamm
Post by Charles von Hamm
Gabriel can't just take a title... He hasn't the right to do so.
Charles von Hamm
What if his parents marry later?
How would the legitimation following the mariage be applied to the
Luxembourg Grand Ducal illegitimate child?
KenO
Legitimated, it may once even become the grand-duke. All depend of the
constitution. In the states of the House of Austria a child has only
then the capacitas succedend, when conceived after the religious
marriage. One may belong to the House, even be the head of the House,
but one does not have the capacitas succedendi, i.e. one cannot succeed
in the ruling of these states.
Do you really mean "conceived" here, or "born"? For a child born
approximately nine months after a marriage, it would be rather difficult for
anyone (other than, perhaps, the parents) to be able to determine whether
conception took place before or after the marriage. This is, presumably, why
the date of birth has such importance.

Stephen
e***@yahoo.fr
2006-03-16 13:11:11 UTC
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Post by Stephen
Post by e***@yahoo.fr
Post by Charles von Hamm
Post by Charles von Hamm
Gabriel can't just take a title... He hasn't the right to do so.
Charles von Hamm
What if his parents marry later?
How would the legitimation following the mariage be applied to the
Luxembourg Grand Ducal illegitimate child?
KenO
Legitimated, it may once even become the grand-duke. All depend of the
constitution. In the states of the House of Austria a child has only
then the capacitas succedend, when conceived after the religious
marriage. One may belong to the House, even be the head of the House,
but one does not have the capacitas succedendi, i.e. one cannot succeed
in the ruling of these states.
Do you really mean "conceived" here, or "born"? For a child born
approximately nine months after a marriage, it would be rather difficult for
anyone (other than, perhaps, the parents) to be able to determine whether
conception took place before or after the marriage. This is, presumably, why
the date of birth has such importance.
At the time of the fixing of this rule modern techniques did not exist!
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