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o***@gmail.com
2015-02-04 13:04:00 UTC
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what monarchies, existing or abolished; have had crowns?

I am dividing this list into two sections:

i.monarchies that possess and actual, physical crown (whether worn or not

ii.monarchies that have a crown that only exists on paper, i.e. on the Coat of Arms or on flags

In the first list we have:

(extant monarchies):
*UK
*Netherlands
*Spain
*Denmark
*Norway
*Tonga
*Vatican City
*Brunei
*Swaziland
*Lesotho


(abolished monarchies)
*France (Kingdom)
*France (Empire)
*Portugal
*Serbia/Yugoslavia
*Greece
*Romania
*Bulgaria
*Austria
*Hungary
*Italy
*Prussia
*Bavaria
*Poland
*Russia
*Finland
*Iran
*Mexico
*Brazil
*Haiti
*Central African Empire
*Ethiopia
*Georgia


monarchies that have a crown that exists 'only on paper':

(extant monarchies)
*Belgium
*Luxembourg
*Monaco
*Andorra
*Jordan
*Morocco
*Saudi Arabia
*Bahrain
*Oman

(abolished monarchies):

*Germany
*Iceland
*Iraq
*Egypt
*Libya
Louis Epstein
2015-02-06 07:10:29 UTC
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what monarchies, existing or abolished; have had crowns?
i.monarchies that possess and actual, physical crown (whether worn or not
ii.monarchies that have a crown that only exists on paper, i.e. on the Coat of Arms or on flags
*UK
*Netherlands
*Spain
*Denmark
*Norway
*Tonga
*Vatican City
*Brunei
*Swaziland
*Lesotho
(abolished monarchies)
*France (Kingdom)
*France (Empire)
*Portugal
*Serbia/Yugoslavia
*Greece
*Romania
*Bulgaria
*Austria
*Hungary
*Italy
*Prussia
*Bavaria
*Poland
*Russia
*Finland
*Iran
*Mexico
*Brazil
*Haiti
*Central African Empire
*Ethiopia
*Georgia
(extant monarchies)
*Belgium
*Luxembourg
*Monaco
*Andorra
The last three don't have Kings...
is the headwear of a lesser ruler
nonetheless a Crown?
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*Jordan
*Morocco
*Saudi Arabia
*Bahrain
*Oman
*Germany
Wasn't Kaiser Wilhelm I crowned in Paris?
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*Iceland
*Iraq
*Egypt
*Libya
The Khmer Rouge destroyed the previously physical crown
of Cambodia,and King Sihanouk on restoration said not to
recreate it.

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o***@gmail.com
2015-02-06 14:39:25 UTC
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Only Friedrich I and Wilhelm I out of the Prussian Kings were ever crowned. Wilhelm I was proclaimed German Emperor at Versailles, but no German Emperor was ever crowned (partly because no physical Imperial crown existed for them to be crowned with in the first place)
o***@gmail.com
2015-02-06 14:41:57 UTC
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The headgear of a *sovereign* Prince certainly is a crown as opposed to a coronet...in addition; by the way, the Prince of Liechtenstein certainly does have a physical crown (made for Prince Franz Josef II), but like the Crown of the Dutch King has never been worn.
o***@gmail.com
2015-02-06 14:44:58 UTC
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Do you have a source for your statement that the Crown of Cambodia was destroyed by the Khmer Rouge? Given that Norodom Sihanouk was the Head of State of Democratic Kampuchea during its first year of existence, I find that unlikely. Also I distinctly remember reading it was present at the enthronement of Norodom Sihamoni, though it was not worn by the King.

Also the Kings of Laos likewise possessed a physical crown.
Louis Epstein
2015-02-06 17:00:57 UTC
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Do you have a source for your statement that the Crown of Cambodia was
destroyed by the Khmer Rouge? Given that Norodom Sihanouk was the Head
of State of Democratic Kampuchea during its first year of existence, I
not King...
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find that unlikely. Also I distinctly remember reading it was present
at the enthronement of Norodom Sihamoni, though it was not worn by the
King.
I recall a press release/article at the time of the restoration,
quoting King Sihanouk as saying "do not recreate the crown and sacred
sword",and that the symbolic recognition of the monarchy would be
adequately served by "the throne itself and the royal white umbrella".
There had been earlier mentions of the regalia having been destroyed
or missing.
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Also the Kings of Laos likewise possessed a physical crown.
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o***@gmail.com
2015-02-06 14:46:33 UTC
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I forgot to mention that in addition out of the existing monarchies, both Thailand and Cambodia possess physical crowns.
o***@gmail.com
2015-02-06 14:48:24 UTC
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As do the King of Bhutan and the Malaysian Yang-di Pertuan Agong. Various of the rulers of the Malaysian states possess physical crowns.
Louis Epstein
2015-02-06 17:03:27 UTC
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As do the King of Bhutan and the Malaysian Yang-di Pertuan Agong.
Various of the rulers of the Malaysian states possess physical crowns.
I presume the magnificent Nepalese crowns with their jewels and
bird-of-paradise plumes have been confiscated or destroyed by the
republicans.There were previous dust-ups over kings travelling
with them over endangered-species laws.

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p***@gmail.com
2015-02-09 09:06:05 UTC
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You forgot Sweden !
o***@gmail.com
2015-02-10 12:07:00 UTC
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Indeed I did!

Kuwait has a heraldic crown that is only used on flags, police badges, etc.

As far as I can tell Japan and Qatar and the individual emirates of the United Arab Emirates do not possess either physical or heraldic crowns.

Japan does possess certain items of regalia however.
o***@gmail.com
2018-08-18 13:18:16 UTC
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A slight addendum: Ceylon, between when it became independent and when it became a republic as Sri Lanka; used the Crown of the Sinhalese Kingdom of Kandy; both on its coat of arms and as the 'official' (physical) crown-it was present when HM visited Ceylon in her capacity as Queen of Ceylon and was displayed, but not worn.
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