Post by Miloch Post by Miloch
Meghan Markle?s half-sister is calling out the royal family for not giving her
dad a coat of arms in the same way the Middleton family was.
?To exclude him of a coat of arms is really stripping him of an honor and it?s a
huge insult,? Samantha Markle Grant said, the Telegraph UK reported.
Kate Middleton?s father, Michael, was given his own coat of arms after his
daughter married Prince William in 2011 and became the Duchess of Cambridge. Not
only is she entitled to use his coat, her siblings and her brother?s children
are as well.
But the Queen deemed the process this time around too ?complicated,? since to
qualify for a heraldic coat of arms, one must prove they have an ancestor who
was a subject of the Crown, according to the Daily Mail.
Instead, the new Duchess of Sussex, Markle, 36, will be given her own coat of
arms, which won?t apply to the rest of her American family, the Mail reported.
But her sister still considers this a royal snub.
IIRC Kate's COA was actually paid for by the family. The official terminology is that it's a "grant," but to get the grant you have to pay petition the local King of Arms. In England that's ?6,075. That would be $8k US. The Middletons had a mail order business which did pretty well, so they could just pay the fee. If you're Scots you can use the Lord Lyon (?1,745 or $2,300US), Meghan herself could probably personally have used the Canadian Heraldic Authority (roughly $2,400Can, which is $1,800US).
Mr. Markle very clearly has plenty of ancestors who were qualified for an English Coat of Arms because his US ancestry goes back to the Pilgrims, so if the English Kings of Arms insisted on that it would not have been a problem. He also has Scots ancestry, so even the much fussier Lord Lyon would have granted him a CoA.
My suspicion is that a) an American showbiz guy did not know he was supposed to do this, and b) given that he declared bankruptcy in '16 he probably did not have the cash sitting around.
As far as I know, anyone who can prove their descent from a British
subject has the right to petition the English or Scottish heraldic
authorities for a grant of a coat-of-arms. But as mentioned above, they
have to pay a very expensive fee for it.
(These fees are essentially legalized bribes...the heralds are paid
minimal salaries Parliament has refused to increase,preferring to force
them to self-fund).
Were the Merrills armigerous?
Were Gertrude or Doris considered heiresses in heraldic terms?
Post by Miloch
Did the Middletons themselves actually have to pay this fee, or was it
somehow waived for them ? Did they petition the English heraldic
authority, or was the fact that their daughter married Prince William
reason enough for an automatic grant ? Thanks
Per Gary Boyd Roberts,
George David Merrill's mother was Mary Hussey Smith,
her father was John Smith,
his mother was Martha Drake,
her father was Abraham Drake,
his mother was Jane Lunt,
her mother was Jane Browne,
her mother was Jane Skepper/Skipper,
her father was Rev. William Skepper/Skipper,died 1640s Boston,
his father was Edward Skepper,
his mother was Joan Legard,
her mother was Isabel Hildyard,
her mother was Joan/Jane "at See" or "de la See",
her mother was Elizabeth Wentworth,
her mother was Mary Clifford,
her mother was Elizabeth Percy,
her mother was Lady Elizabeth Mortimer,
her mother was Philippa of Clarence,Countess of Ulster,
her father was Lionel of Antwerp,Duke of Clarence,
his father was King Edward III of England.
Mary Clifford is a common ancestor of Meghan AND of both
of the Prince's parents.
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