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Arnault - treason or lese majeste?
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c***@hush.ai
2018-04-30 16:59:00 UTC
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In England/Great Britain/Ukogbani, it is high treason to "violate" King´s wife, or wife or eldest son and heir of King, or King´s eldest daughter unmarried.

England has had Queens Regnant since 1553. Yet it does not seem that any statute has ever made it treason to forcibly violate the body of a Queen Regnant.

Now, Sweden has their own laws of treason.

Several witnesses have observed Jean-Claude Arnault "violate" Princess Victoria of Sweden, in mid-2000-s. Victoria was at the time King´s eldest daughter unmarried, as well as his heiress.

The "violation" in question is alleged to have consisted of the said Jean-Claude Arnault having used his hand to touch Her Royal Highness´ buttocks, over her clothes, without her leave.

Does this kind of conduct, if proven against Queen Consort, Princess of Wales or eldest daughter unmarried of English sovereign, qualify as "violation" in the sense of Treason Act?

Besides high treason, are there any applicable laws of Sweden against lese majeste available against the said malefactor?
g***@gmail.com
2018-04-30 19:13:32 UTC
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In England/Great Britain/Ukogbani, it is high treason to "violate" King´s wife, or wife or eldest son and heir of King, or King´s eldest daughter unmarried.
England has had Queens Regnant since 1553. Yet it does not seem that any statute has ever made it treason to forcibly violate the body of a Queen Regnant.
Now, Sweden has their own laws of treason.
Several witnesses have observed Jean-Claude Arnault "violate" Princess Victoria of Sweden, in mid-2000-s. Victoria was at the time King´s eldest daughter unmarried, as well as his heiress.
The "violation" in question is alleged to have consisted of the said Jean-Claude Arnault having used his hand to touch Her Royal Highness´ buttocks, over her clothes, without her leave.
Does this kind of conduct, if proven against Queen Consort, Princess of Wales or eldest daughter unmarried of English sovereign, qualify as "violation" in the sense of Treason Act?
Besides high treason, are there any applicable laws of Sweden against lese majeste available against the said malefactor?
Arnault a British Royalty?
r***@gmail.com
2018-07-01 21:37:01 UTC
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From what I know, the provisions with regards to high treason to the King also apply to the [female] person who happens to be Queen Regnant (and thus, one could say, formally to be King). From my perspective, the term King in this instance should be read as Sovereign or Monarch, rather than [male] King as we understand it in general/popular circumstances. I also know that this practice is followed in other European nations.

With regards to the specific question involving Princess Victoria of Sweden, I must confess that I was and am not aware of the exact facts and circumstances, and therefore, I am not fit to answer it.
c***@hush.ai
2018-07-04 21:32:37 UTC
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From what I know, the provisions with regards to high treason to the King also apply to the [female] person who happens to be Queen Regnant (and thus, one could say, formally to be King). From my perspective, the term King in this instance should be read as Sovereign or Monarch, rather than [male] King as we understand it in general/popular circumstances. I also know that this practice is followed in other European nations.
It is also not treasonable to bugger the body of a male King of England, whether by force or with his consent. So lack of clear provision for forcible violation of the body of a Queen Regnant cannot be filled by implication from that direction.
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