Discussion:
Ottoman Heir Has Died
(too old to reply)
David Amicus
2017-01-09 00:23:09 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
http://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2017/01/07/last-heir-to-former-ottoman-empire-bayezid-osman-dies-at-age-92
Count Gudenus
2017-01-09 04:08:05 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by David Amicus
http://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2017/01/07/last-heir-to-former-ottoman-empire-bayezid-osman-dies-at-age-92
THis House hasnow become extinct?
Louis Epstein
2017-01-09 23:04:57 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Count Gudenus
Post by David Amicus
http://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2017/01/07/last-heir-to-former-ottoman-empire-bayezid-osman-dies-at-age-92
THis House hasnow become extinct?
No,there are other descendants.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
N***@gmail.com
2017-01-10 03:45:06 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Count Gudenus
Post by David Amicus
http://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/2017/01/07/last-heir-to-former-ottoman-empire-bayezid-osman-dies-at-age-92
THis House hasnow become extinct?
In Ottoman there's no concept of bastardy or morganatic marriage. That means that their succession system was somewhat insane (up until the 17th century the various Imperial brothers would kill each-other, the idea being that the survivor was clearly strongest, afterwards the eldest was declared strongest and the rest of the Princes were locked up in Kafes with no education or girls), but it also means that it's virtually inconceivable that they could ever run out of heirs.

According to the wiki the new heir is 86.

Nick
Count Gudenus
2017-01-10 08:46:15 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by N***@gmail.com
In Ottoman there's no concept of bastardy or morganatic marriage. That means that their succession system was somewhat insane (up until the 17th century the various Imperial brothers would kill each-other, the idea being that the survivor was clearly strongest, afterwards the eldest was declared strongest and the rest of the Princes were locked up in Kafes with no education or girls), but it also means that it's virtually inconceivable that they could ever run out of heirs.
According to the wiki the new heir is 86.
Nick
cafées/ coffee shops?
Count Gudenus
2017-01-10 08:50:28 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by N***@gmail.com
In Ottoman there's no concept of bastardy or morganatic marriage. That means that their succession system was somewhat insane (up until the 17th century the various Imperial brothers would kill each-other, the idea being that the survivor was clearly strongest, afterwards the eldest was declared strongest and the rest of the Princes were locked up in Kafes with no education or girls), but it also means that it's virtually inconceivable that they could ever run out of heirs.
In Europe - The Ottomans being Asians - one blinded unnecessary ..., some were castrated. Some of course did not survive
Count Gudenus
2017-01-10 11:54:24 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by N***@gmail.com
In Ottoman there's no concept of bastardy or morganatic marriage. That means that their succession system was somewhat insane (up until the 17th century the various Imperial brothers would kill each-other, the idea being that the survivor was clearly strongest, afterwards the eldest was declared strongest and the rest of the Princes were locked up in Kafes with no education or girls), but it also means that it's virtually inconceivable that they could ever run out of heirs.
In Europe after assinations the next step was that potentially heïrs were "invited“ to become monks; in German history called ‘Mönchung’; particularly a Catholic monk had no rights to have money, etc; no rghts to marry.

It was suggested that Napoleon's son kindly had to be influenced to become a bishop, etc. only the pope could him free him from his vows!
Loading...